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    So lately the AI can't ever keep up with my tech (on Prince) on any of the 10-15 games I've played. They always fall way behind and espionage shows most of them researching like bronze working with 50-200 turns left when I'm on drama/printing press etc with a good 8-10 tech lead over everyone else, and I'm maybe midsized when it comes to number of cities. What could account for this behaviour? The AI workers seem to be slacking alot compared to before, I always used to see AI civs full of cottages/towns but now they're mostly dry.

    Any help would be appreciated

  • #2
    Never seen anything like this before Can you post a screenshot or a save? Maybe someone can get an explanation then

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    • #3
      50-200 turns left? Unless under anarchy (even that!), this is not the usual AI behavior...
      Maybe you’ve installed some non-signed patch by accident, and instead of a smarter AI, you have now a dumber script...?
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      • #4
        What settings are you using?
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        • #5
          I'll get a save/screen during the next game (in my stupidity I always overwrite the same file when saving sometimes..). I thought maybe it was a known bug or something.

          I'm playing with slightly modified epic settings (ie only research is slowed, almost everything else is normal). It's just that I always wind up with this huge tech lead and most of the AI civs (1 or 2 are usually pretty close) are researching ancient techs and then having 40-50 turns between each. 200 may have been an exaggeration

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          • #6
            So you are using a mod to slow research and you are wondering why research is slowed?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Garth Vader
              So you are using a mod to slow research and you are wondering why research is slowed?
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              • #8
                I would suggest that the AI probably doesn't deal with the slowed research very well It probably has certain factors that tell it to choose gold or hammers over research when research is going to be too hard, and it's hitting this barrier.

                You might want to give the AI some advantage here...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Garth Vader
                  So you are using a mod to slow research and you are wondering why research is slowed?
                  If you grasp basic English and read my posts you'd know the answer to that question.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by snoopy369
                    I would suggest that the AI probably doesn't deal with the slowed research very well It probably has certain factors that tell it to choose gold or hammers over research when research is going to be too hard, and it's hitting this barrier.

                    You might want to give the AI some advantage here...
                    Hmm.. why would the AI deal with it any differently.. it just takes more beakers to research something?

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                    • #11
                      Well, the Ai has to choose between alternatives. And it does this using parameters and formulas. Let’s say, "…researching bronze working now will take 50 turns, not 20 anymore... I can build 20 units in the same time, not 8; if I have 20 archers, according my parameters and calculations, I’ll declare war to my weakest neighbor… So , let's make archers instead"...

                      Or something similar to that. Am I right, or close, snoopy369?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sju av Nio


                        Hmm.. why would the AI deal with it any differently.. it just takes more beakers to research something?
                        its not nearly that simple. like snoopy said, what the AI decides to research is not just an arbitrary decision, and i'm sure the way it works tiles, improvements it builds, etc. are all effected by this. just remove the mod, and you'll be fine. if epic is too fast, play marathon.

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