Check out that starting location !

[Vampgelus]

No comment!

[Tuberski]

Bananas in grassland?

ACK!

[wodan11]

As everybody knows, the French version frequently gives extra food in the start location.

Wodan

[Zero]

i used to mapedit starting positions like that

[snoopy369]

Meh, not enough hammers (unless iron/copper in one of those hills).

[GeoModder]

Do I hear specialist city, people?

[Vampgelus]

Well, it lacks hammers, but settle some GE and it's fine. But afterwards the map around sucked No metal and horses about 30 squares to the south... lethal for Byzantium.

So i had a poor power graph and was attacked by Chaka and "his" friends, which should actually have been mine since they shared the religion i founded... (exept Chaka beeing from another one).

This game just pissed me off...

[snoopy369]

Settling GE's in that city would be a horrible waste. Better off just moving your capital to a bettor location and using it for specialists.

Settling GPs (particularly GEs) just to make up for a lack in a city is always a bad choice. You should specialize your cities, thus this city simply won't be a hammer city (well, slave-hammers )

[wodan11]

Why would settling make this city un-specialized?

Wodan

[snoopy369]

Settling Great Engineers in this city would be a waste of a GE. It is never going to be a hammer producer, no matter how many (realistic) GE's you settle; so you need to specialize it as a commerce city, or a Specialist city (lots of scientists/merchants/etc.). Putting GEs in it and then not using it to produce hammers would be a waste.

[Diadem]

Exactly. You want to GEs in your city where you have Iron Works or Heroic Epic, or both. But certainly a city where you get the maximum bonus out of those hammers.

Besides this city doesn't really lack production. That's 4 hills right there. Plus a few forests. That's a decent hammer output. Not enough to build military units in 1 turn, or build the most expensive wonders. But certainly enough to build up its own infrastructure.

Found 1-2 religions in it (it's your capital, so 1 at least should be easy) and throw in wallstreet + oxford and you're doing great.

[Theben]

Originally posted by Diadem
Found 1-2 religions in it (it's your capital, so 1 at least should be easy) and throw in wallstreet + oxford and you're doing great.

Unless he has another city by that time, which he should. My religion is almost always in my 2nd city.

Ironically enough, since I play the NA a lot, my 2nd city is Poverty Point, and it usually winds up as my wealthiest city.

[Vampgelus]

Hehe, funny coincidence Theben.

To all others, don't bother about the best use of that slot, as i said, i left that game since i noticed that the capital slot was the only awsome thing in there, all other criteria for a good game were missing.

[Krill]

4000BC save?

[wodan11]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Settling Great Engineers in this city would be a waste of a GE. It is never going to be a hammer producer, no matter how many (realistic) GE's you settle; so you need to specialize it as a commerce city, or a Specialist city (lots of scientists/merchants/etc.). Putting GEs in it and then not using it to produce hammers would be a waste.

How would you not be using it to produce hammers? Commerce cities make more use of hammers, pound for pound, than "hammer cities".

A production city will easily be able to make 10x the input of the GE. Meanwhile, the commerce city cannot. So, the GE is 10% or less benefit to the production city, while it could easily be 100-200% or higher benefit to the commerce city.

Wodan