Espionage Points

[Supr49er]

What happens to your Espionage Points against a civ when they are destroyed?

For example, you dedicate 50% of your EP against Shaka, then Catherine destroys Shaka. He is no longer on the Espionage Screen. Are all those points lost?

[rah]

From My experience, toast.
When I start a campaign against an AI (or know it's imminent) I usually drop then down to 0 weight and use what I have against them. Use em or lose em

[egavactip]

I wish there were a no espionage option. I find it irritating.

[MyOlde]

i agree with egavactip. It's hard enough fending off aggressive civs without being notified that your town or village has been destroyed ... over and over.

[snoopy369]

You could mod espionage out fairly simply - just make every single ESP active mission cost MAXLONG esp points (assuming that's a long int - if it's a regular int, MAXINT). Even 32000 ESP/mission would make sure you would rarely if ever see an ESP mission go against you. It's a simple XML file fix, iirc. Or, remove the active missions entirely - or the ones that annoy you, at least.

It would hamstring the AI, because the AI tends to spend a bit on ESP and this wouldn't change that. You could allay that somewhat by allowing it a few missions that aren't annoying (like, steal tech - that would be the best since it would allow the AI to just spend ESP instead of beakers for tech, not a big difference); or just play a difficulty level higher

[Tattila the Hun]

So, use more points for espionage, build spies, and use them on counter espionage.

I'd like to see, if someone takes out a civ I've invested esp in, some of that esp go into the one, who took it out. I mean, it's still a spy network in the now-occupied new cities of the out taker civ.

[Blaupanzer]

Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
I'd like to see, if someone takes out a civ I've invested esp in, some of that esp go into the one, who took it out. I mean, it's still a spy network in the now-occupied new cities of the out taker civ.

Good idea.