New Strategy

[DaShi]

Has anyone tried this?

Once you discover future tech, you can assume that you've built a time machine. Therefore, you reload your first turn autosave, enter world builder and send some tanks or something from the future to wipe out your enemies before they even get started.

The question is, can this be pulled off in MP?

[Lord Avalon]

Watch out for the Terminator sent back to kill off your first settler.

[joncnunn]

I think it would be more efficent to send him back the moment your capital reached size 2.

In any case though unless what your after is a conquest victory, there are certain disadvantages to having wiped out your enemies too early, the bigest being tech stagnation (unless you granted yourself the tech tree) and next being out of control barb town generation. The AI invests much more effort into preventing barbs from forming in outlaying areas of landmasses they control than a human does.

[Mies78]

and then what?

it would be like living on a planet all alone right from the start when you have a super uber conquest victory.

a sorry planet that would be.

[couerdelion]

Remember to take a photograph back with you and watch for any "fading".

1) You lose cities that the AI founded but you captured. Many of these now do not exist.
2) You lose any benefits from trading that you might once have had
3) Perhaps there is a critical point at which you lose the ability to reach Future Tech in the limited timeframe available.

All of these will effectively mean that the time machine does not exist and therefore, neither do the tanks in 4000 BC.

You might also want to ask yourself what would happen if another civ discovers this time-machine and sends gunships back to 5000 BC. Who wins that one, eh? The first nation to send the advanced weaponry or the one who sends them back earlier.

[ZEE]

Sounds like a great MOD idea

OK i will wait while yall make it. thanks!

[TimeTraveler]

I think the way I'd set up this kind of time travel in this kind of game, the effects of changing things in a previous era would take some time to reach the era from which those tanks came. As in so much time that your rivals could make a counter-response. They might build their own time machines with which they could send their own units to the ancient era. In other words, not quite an automatic victory for whoever got there first, unless the time travel itself was specifically enabled as a victory condition.

[eris]

Let's do the Time Warp again!!!

(Sorry, couldn't resist. Of course, now I have that stuck in my head, going over and over again. I suppose I deserve that somehow.)

[Theben]

Just keep it out of our heads.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by joncnunn
I think it would be more efficent to send him back the moment your capital reached size 2.

In any case though unless what your after is a conquest victory, there are certain disadvantages to having wiped out your enemies too early, the bigest being tech stagnation (unless you granted yourself the tech tree) and next being out of control barb town generation. The AI invests much more effort into preventing barbs from forming in outlaying areas of landmasses they control than a human does.

True, barbs do make short work of tanks.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by couerdelion
Remember to take a photograph back with you and watch for any "fading".

1) You lose cities that the AI founded but you captured. Many of these now do not exist.
2) You lose any benefits from trading that you might once have had
3) Perhaps there is a critical point at which you lose the ability to reach Future Tech in the limited timeframe available.

All of these will effectively mean that the time machine does not exist and therefore, neither do the tanks in 4000 BC.

You might also want to ask yourself what would happen if another civ discovers this time-machine and sends gunships back to 5000 BC. Who wins that one, eh? The first nation to send the advanced weaponry or the one who sends them back earlier.

I'd assume that it's more of a quantum time travel thingie, where by going back in time you create a new universe that doesn't affect the previous one allowing for the paradox.

[wodan11]

Originally posted by DaShi


I'd assume that it's more of a quantum time travel thingie, where by going back in time you create a new universe that doesn't affect the previous one allowing for the paradox.

Either that, or as soon as the time portal opened and you came through, accidentally crushing a butterfly, you and everything that came through the portal would instantly cease to exist in neat flash of fire.

Net effect on the original universe is one dead butterfly.

Wodan

[Modo44]

Originally posted by wodan11
Either that, or as soon as the time portal opened and you came through, accidentally crushing a butterfly, you and everything that came through the portal would instantly cease to exist in neat flash of fire.

Actually, the flash of fire is non-existent as well.

[MoonWolf]

I think this thread is moving a bit out of hand when we start to discuss time paradox theories that no physicist have found any answer to. And probably won't, cause what happens if time travel is suddenly possible? Will someone risk going back in time and maybe change the future cause they will affect the past? Or, as they have already travelled from the future, have they already been there?

[wodan11]

Time travel into the past is probably impossible anyway. Even travel into the future is probably impossible, except a "hack" such as suspended animation or slowing down time relatively.

Wodan