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  • Strategy help please - any hope?

    Any hope of turning this position into victory?

    I have not been playing Civ4 long, and have deliberately avoided copying all the advice on here (which I did for Civ 2 and 3) to give myself more of a challenge.

    The attached save is vanilla Civ 4 with patches. Large map, normal timescale, Prince level (I rashly moved up after one win and a couple of near misses at Noble).

    The question is: "Do you think I can feasibly win under any victory conditions, given my current position? If so, how?".

    I will freely admit that as I learn to play Civ, I have not yet learned to plot a strategy beyond the middle game - no focus on a tech path or victory conditions, no thinking forward to desirable civics or wonders. So I end up in a muddle.

    This game I determined to improve my military management - being better defended , managing battles better (still trying to lose old Civ habits). This I have done to a pleasing extent, mainly thanks to wonderful Cossacks, which have truly been a pleasure to deploy.

    To summarise where I am now - I am several techs behind the top 2-3 civs. I have an underpowered economy and science, and not too many cities with a lot of production capabiity. I have more unhappiness and ill health than normal, and almost no great leader production (still not managed to generate a prophet to build my shrine for Christianity, which I founded and has spread magnificently.

    I started to struggle tech wise some time back, so I decided to see if I could fight my way to victory. After finally taking the Roman cities to the south, I invaded SPain (which had attacked me several times) and everyone else declared war on me. I was pleased to hold them off, especially the artillery and SAMs of the persians, but did not make any significant gains, although I got peace for 500 gold eventually!

    So - is it worth carrying on, or should I start anew? Your ideas and critiques would be welcome.
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  • #2
    Sorry, it's a lost cause.

    The tech lead Cyrus has is way too big. He'll beat you in a space race and you can't stop him because you have insufffcient tech to slow or deter him.

    If there were some way to get everyone to gang up on him, you might have a chance. But, everyone, mostly, hates you.

    Your religion did very little for you because you never built your shrine. Make that a priority! You must have spent a lot of resources spreading your religion...

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    • #3
      Thanks for replying, I thought as much.

      Actually, the religion spread pretty quickly. I did build some missionaries, but a lot of the spread in other civs' cities was spontaneous.

      I never got a prophet, maybe I should have done more to produce GP points with a bias towards a prophet.

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      • #4
        If you didn't want the advice before, why now?

        Next time build wonders that generate Great Prophets, and/or use specialist priests to increase Prophet GPs. I almost always build both Stonehenge and Oracle, so I'm never at a loss for Prophets (the problem being I sometimes have too many lategame).
        I'm consitently stupid- Japher
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