Failed space race

[Indalecio]

Originally posted by patcon



Do you people forget how to build spaceships because all the engineers and smart people fly off? If so, who builds the next ship if the first one fails?

Yeah, but you could make the same argument for wonders. Why should you be forced to stop building a wonder just because some other civ built it first?

[HoldSteady]

Inflation, probably. After the 1st few Great Lighthouses, they are no longer considered that 'Great', and become viewed as ah yes, that bigger-than-normal-but-still-rather-ordinairy-Lighthouse.

[Risa]

A ship with 5 thrusters and 1 engine with takes 13 turns on normal game speed, 5 thrusters and 2 engines reduce it to 11 turns. I haven't check the relation between ship speed and number of thrusters. They are available too early. By the time I have every kind of parts built, 5 thrusters had been mounted for at least 20 turns.

[Supr49er]

Originally posted by LzPrst
in civ1 you could conquer the capital of a civ that had launced it's spaceship and it would crash...

What happens now? Do you have to completely destroy the civilization that launched? What if you attack and they capitulate? Obviously I don't Space Race much.

[OFogy]

I had a space ship simply disappear.
I was all set for a space victory, with one turn remaining, hit Enter and suddenly had 71 turns remaining. Under victory conditions, the ETA had changed to a year hence.
I guess it's a big universe out there.
Oh, my ship was fully trigged out, no lack of thrusters or anything else.
Still, I was Not Happy!

[Robert]

Does the SS arrive earlier at it's destination with less Casing built? If so, then it pays off to build less cases to bypass an earlier launched SS.

If not, then why not finish the SS first? If you're ahead then you have more time anyway to launch it first. If you're behind then building less cases won't help you anyway.

[ben_vii]

I remember that rule in Civ1 and I thought I read somewhere that they brough it back in BtS, but maybe that's just hopeful thinking.

I'll be able to confirm it in my current game regardless. I was going for a space race victory, cruising along nicely with a small tech advantage and the internet. Only 3 turns to complete the space elevator when Victoria, who shares my continent and has been my greatest ally since the beginning, manages to build it. Dissappointing since I thought it was wrapped up, maybe she had a GE?

Anyway, I'm going to bring war to her capital and take what I believe should be mine. Rome is also in the race and Caesar's captital is in a prime razing position.

Does anyone know the effect, if any, of capturing a rival capital?

[MoonWolf]

I'm quite sure I've read somewhere in a feature list of BtS (before it was out) that capturing a capital returns the spaceship to Earth.

[Horace]

^ yes thats right

[ben_vii]

Excellent, I assume I'll have to wait until they launch before I come storming in.

[snoopy369]

well, you can always storm in ahead of the launch to encourage them to stop building

[Quillan]

I think it's back to the Civ I rules: if you capture a capital before the launch you destroy all completed components of the ship, and if you capture a capital after the launch you cause the ship to be recalled.

[ben_vii]

I don't think that's right.

I captured Victoria's capital when she had completed many components of the ship, after this I checked the win screen and she was replaced by Rome. So I assumed that all of her components were destroyed.

Then it was announced she had completed another component and she was back on the win screen with all the previous components, I don't think she could have re-built them.

Taking the capital still helped me win though, as it had the elevator. This was with vanilla bts.

[Nugog]

Originally posted by snoopy369
well, you can always storm in ahead of the launch to encourage them to stop building

My prefered approach!

[gdijedi7]

Woot for nukes and paratroops!