abandon city?

[NerdLord93]

can you abandon cities like you could in CivIII? I can't find the command.

[Solver]

Nope. Once you have it, you're stuck with it

[Robert]

imagine that your president/king/tyran had such an option...............

oops, most dictators do have such an option

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

I seldom find this a problem - empty the city out and someone will usually take it off your hands.

[couerdelion]

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
I seldom find this a problem - empty the city out and someone will usually take it off your hands.

Or

a) park a couple of chariots near to the city
b) gift it to a neighbour who you want to fight
c) declare war
d) capture city and raze it

I doubt you'll get any gold but you'll acquire a some GG points and XP

[Ming]

Originally posted by couerdelion
a) park a couple of chariots near to the city
b) gift it to a neighbour who you want to fight
c) declare war
d) capture city and raze it

I doubt you'll get any gold but you'll acquire a some GG points and XP

[Wiglaf]

That also has the unfortunate side effect of making that neighbor hate you for the rest of the game.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
That also has the unfortunate side effect of making that neighbor hate you for the rest of the game.

In most of my games, most of my neighbors hate me anyway The trick is to give it to the "right" neighbor...

[Wiglaf]

That is surprising. I play on noble and I usually only do well if I can ally with neighbors and convince them to fight wars with civs somewhere across the globe. That way I have a good buffer and can focus on tech while they go military.

[Ming]

Unless everybody is the same religion, you eventually are going to have to choose which neighbors to support, and which ones to blow off. Those ever present "stop dealing with such and such" requests coming from two people you have good relations with will eventually mean you have to choose one. (and as my typical luck, I pick the one I want to be buddies with, and they change religion next turn, and they both hate me anyway)

I have a simple solution to neighbors that hate me... I eliminate them

[couerdelion]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
That also has the unfortunate side effect of making that neighbor hate you for the rest of the game.

Surely the AI you declare war has already got onto the list of short to medium term enemies. It’s a rare thing for them to hate you for the “rest of the game” since they often don’t manage to reach that stage .

And if they are really lucky and join my select gang of willing slaves then they will, over time, gradually change their opinion of me to one of absolute devotion despite the
-3 you declared war on me
-1 you razed one of our cities

These are small negatives compared to the civic and religious bonus while open borders, trade and common cause should easily get you into cautious/pleased territory

[patcon]

Originally posted by couerdelion It’s a rare thing for them to hate you for the “rest of the game” since they often don’t manage to reach that stage .

Oh, I don't know about that. In my last game, Stalin had the misfortune to start out with a scout and settler in the same tile right next to my warrior. Poof! No more Stalin. But even at the very end of the game, Stalin was "furious" and "refused to talk".
I guess dead men tell no tales but still have an attitude.

[couerdelion]

Originally posted by patcon

In my last game, Stalin had the misfortune to start out with a scout and settler in the same tile right next to my warrior. Poof! No more Stalin. But even at the very end of the game, Stalin was "furious" and "refused to talk".

Now just how pissed off you would be if that warrior had lost?

I'm imagine that Stalin talked of being "furious" and "refusing to talk" on his deathbed. Since there was nothing in his will, I should get too worried about all this bad feeling.

[Blaupanzer]

How bad is it to be hated by someone in Hell?

[Boracks]

Originally posted by Blaupanzer
How bad is it to be hated by someone in Hell?

Makes your arrival there uncomfortable?