Global warming

[Michlo]

How do we combat global warming in Civ IV?

I'm doing something I don't usually do right now which is to continue playing way after I've won. I have my culture all over the map and I have everyone using environmentalism.

I'm still having random spots of global warming turning the plot to desert though.

How do we combat this?

Cheers.

[Jaybe]

Recognize what causes global warming in Civ IV:
Nuclear weapon detonations, nuclear plant accidents.

Avoiding the causes is the only way. Though I do not KNOW whether cleaning up fallout promptly has an affect or not, I don't think so.

[DrSpike]

Conquer the Americans if they are in the game.

[joncnunn]

I've never experenced global warming in Civ IV. I don't build nuclear power plants and I don't build nuclear weapons.

[greenday_234]

Also recognize that very little of it is in your control, a neighbor could just as easily build a nuclear plant or detonate a nuke.

Also scrubbing the fallout fast or slow has no effect on global warming. It's a rather stupid model Firaxis came up with in that department. I think they should either fix it, so you can reverse the effects or scrap the concept entirely.

[SandMonkey]

After reading a thread in the General forum about building deletion, and then this thread, I was prompted to perform a search to find out what causes a nuclear meltdown. I read several threads, but no one seems to know exactly what causes them. Is it just a random chance per nuclear plant, therefore meaning the more plants you have, the higher the chance of a meltdown? Or is there a specific cause? For instance, I believe in CivII unhappiness could lead to a meltdown.

[Will9]

Originally posted by greenday_234
Also recognize that very little of it is in your control, a neighbor could just as easily build a nuclear plant or detonate a nuke.

Also scrubbing the fallout fast or slow has no effect on global warming. It's a rather stupid model Firaxis came up with in that department. I think they should either fix it, so you can reverse the effects or scrap the concept entirely.

I think it should be global cooling since nuclear weapons cause nuclear winters.

SandMonkey, I thinkk it is every turn there is x chance of a meltdown.

[Jaybe]

Whether it was named global warming or nuclear winter, the effects would be the same: tiles becoming unuseable (i.e., desert) across the map.

[Will9]

If it was a nuclear winter wouldn't it cause more tundra?

[MasterDave]

You can have global warming with no nuclear weapons being used nor nuke plant meltdowns as well. I have seen it happen in cities with lots of pollution creating buildings (coal plants, factories, airports, labs, etc). It is rare but it does happen (maybe once or twice in a epic speed game).

Replacing coal plants with clean power and not having airports and drydocks everywhere would probably help reduce the chances of this.

[Brizey]

Never seen it yet either. Didn't know it existed, actually.

[ben04]

You can always mod them out if you want to be sure that the AI doesn't do something stupid.

[Jaybe]

MasterDave, I would speculate that your no-nukes/plants global warming experience was actually caused by a nuclear plant meltdown that you didn't observe. I have seen AI civs have meltdowns occur to them.

[joncnunn]

Maybe Firaxis missed this when adjusting epic (& marthaton) games. There might also be more nuke plant meltdowns in epic (& marathons)

Originally posted by MasterDave
You can have global warming with no nuclear weapons being used nor nuke plant meltdowns as well. I have seen it happen in cities with lots of pollution creating buildings (coal plants, factories, airports, labs, etc). It is rare but it does happen (maybe once or twice in a epic speed game).

Replacing coal plants with clean power and not having airports and drydocks everywhere would probably help reduce the chances of this.

[gdijedi7]

Originally posted by Will9
If it was a nuclear winter wouldn't it cause more tundra?

I don't think nuclear winter = global cooling.

Nuclear winter = too many nukes makes Earth uninhabitable.