Civ 2.42 is better than Civ4

[dregor]

Civ3 also had spearmen. Clearly they are the same game with better graphics.

[Dis]

and in civ3 spearmen can defeat tanks as they can in civ4. Okay I haven't seen it yet, but it's possible. . I have seen war elephants defeat tanks. War elephants are far too strong in this game.

[Iamjohn]

I've seen it in both, but I guess it's just how the dice roll every once in awhile.

War elephants arn't too strong, try walking against a pikeman or even a spearman in a city.

[Gavin Berchler]

I loved smax and colonization, cIv3 was definitely a downer for me.

the one fall back about civ 4 is that it made civ2 and smax all unplayable for me. I just keep thinking where are the cool stuff that I miss from civ 4....

Think about it.. I can still easily play a game of moo2 even though moo3 is out... purely because moo3 was so awful..

Interestingly colonization still has a pull factor for me. I would really love sid to do an update....

Another great example of this is sid's pirate games and railroad tychoon games. I can't pick up the originals anymore!

[Dis]

I used to still play SMAC semi-regularly. A few times a year. Haven't played it since civ4 came out. . I think eventually I will play again. Only because the atmosphere is totatly different. There is still some cool stuff that isn't in civ games.

[Asmodean]

I love Civ 4 of course, but I can not see myself totally abandoning SMAX and Colonization. The flavour of those games makes them something unique. And there is the nostalgia factor too, I guess.

Still - Civ 4 is a great leap forward for the 4X genre.

Asmodean

[MikeH]

Originally posted by Dis
I used to still play SMAC semi-regularly. A few times a year. Haven't played it since civ4 came out. . I think eventually I will play again. Only because the atmosphere is totatly different. There is still some cool stuff that isn't in civ games.

Wait for the CivIV SMAC mod. Which I hope gets finished.

http://apolyton.net/civgroups/news.php?civgroupid=70

[Gavin Berchler]

Originally posted by MikeH


Wait for the CivIV SMAC mod. Which I hope gets finished.

http://apolyton.net/civgroups/news.php?civgroupid=70

If you guys help out here:

http://apolyton.net/forums//showthread.php?s=&threadid=161525

or here:

http://apolyton.net/forums//forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=24

I have no doubt we can make it awesome!

[Common Sensei]

Originally posted by Asmodean
I love Civ 4 of course, but I can not see myself totally abandoning SMAX and Colonization. The flavour of those games makes them something unique. And there is the nostalgia factor too, I guess.

I'm somehow fascinated by a potential combination of elements of Civ 4, Pirates! and Colonization. Even just a combo of Pirates! and Colonization could be fun, taking direct control of privateers and sea battles during wars of independence.

[BirraImperial]

Civ II is crap compared to Civ 4. Graphics, game mechanics, additions, etc. In other words Civ 4 is light years ahead.

[Harrier UK]

I give Civ4 a rating of -1 as I can not get it to work on my abaccus.

But seriously, scripting made Civ2 better than Civ3.

But a programmer can now do that in Civ4 and much much more. So Civ4 is better.

[Gavin Berchler]

I think that civ3 was a step back from smac and civ 4 is still closer to smac. There are still loads of things missing from civ4 that smac had...

interludes, throne room, story based mini plots. a unit construction workshop. Better diplomacy and better un council.

Just because something is newer doens't mean its better.

[DrSpike]

Civ4 is way more balanced though and the AI is better, with part of that being advances and part being clever game design.

[One_more_turn]

Civ 3 is a POS.

[Saurus]

Originally posted by Gavin Berchler

Interestingly colonization still has a pull factor for me. I would really love sid to do an update....

Ah...Colonization. How many years have I been waiting for a sequel...witch never seem to come