max on religion

[IKWILEENKIP]

Is there a max on religion?


Is there a maximum amount of % a religion can get at the start of the game when all other religions are low?

I'm so lucky as to have the only succesfull religion, spreading like a rabit, where all others got stuck at one city. I wanted to spread it to my neighboor who has one of those religions with 1% because I don't want a war just yet.

So I send in a misionary but it failed. I did it 2 times more and it kept failing. I admit I reloaded (as it was kinda important) but it failed 3 times again.

Out of curiosity I kept reloading to see if it was a bug. It never worked. I have the different seeds option on so that isn't the problem.

Can some of you experienced folks help me out on this one?

[Mr Justice]

dunno about that particular incident,
but you could try gifting the unit to the civ rather than directly trying to spread the religion yourself.

[Diadem]

I've never heard of a cap on religions. What you describe seems very strange.

Do you have a save?

[Zebek]

Re: max on religion

Originally posted by IKWILEENKIP
So I send in a misionary but it failed. I did it 2 times more and it kept failing. I admit I reloaded (as it was kinda important) but it failed 3 times again.

It happens a lot when you try to put the 6th or 7th religion in a city, but i suppose you are speaking about a city with no more tha 2 religions.

I tried to simulate your situation, through the editor, putting some misionaries near an enemy city at the year 3000 BC, no Teocracy involved. Each time I tried, and tried some times, the religion was succesfully spreaded (maybe failed the first but not the second), and it happend even if the enemy city was a 3 holy city!!. So, i dont think there is a cap, maybe you were sooooooooo unlucky

what you explained seems really strange, which difficult is "this" game?

[AshenPlanet]

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If your neighbor was theocracy, it will always fail...

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[Arrian]

If your neighbor is in Theo, you won't even be allowed to try. That's different from failing.

I suspect a bad run of luck in trying to spread a religion to a city that already had several.

-Arrian

[Tattila the Hun]

Figured I'd ask this here...



Never noticed that before, but it says "Spreads X-religion" there... How does that work?

[Zebek]

Originally posted by Arrian
I suspect a bad run of luck in trying to spread a religion to a city that already had several.

I fully agree, just last weekend I played a game were I was trying to spread a religion in a little lvl 2 city of an enemy (Tokugawa) that put it in my continent.

I thought...... spreading my religion there have more chances to get a rebelion into the city , lets do it!

Awwwwww.... i wasted more than 10 misionaries in a lvl 2 city that only had one religion !!!. Of course he wasn't running Theocracy, as Arran said if he runs Theo you don't have the chance to spread.

Luck is a factor too

[Arrian]

OUCH! Ten missionaries? That's absolutely terrible luck. The worse I can recall is 3 failures in a row.

Tattila:

Shrines increase the passive spread rate of a religion. I'm not sure of the exact numbers.

-Arrian

[Diadem]

I don't think anyone knows the numbers. They might even be negative.

Whenever I found two religions the one I build the shrine for always tends up the least spread, somehow.

[Nacht]

Originally posted by Diadem
I don't think anyone knows the numbers. They might even be negative.

chance = 20 + (((7 - number_of_religions_in_city) * 80) / 7)

for your own or teammates cities:
chance = 40 + (((7 - number_of_religions_in_city) * 60) / 7)

Why would noone know? We have the SDK.

[Diadem]

Actually I expected someone to know them It was, sort of, a joke, about them being negative.

Though I must say I've never seen any noticably effect of shrines.

What are the numbers without a shrine?

[Zebek]

Originally posted by Nacht
chance = 20 + (((7 - number_of_religions_in_city) * 80) / 7)

for your own or teammates cities:
chance = 40 + (((7 - number_of_religions_in_city) * 60) / 7)

That drops a percentage, right?

Originally posted by Nacht
We have the SDK.

uhm... whats SDK?

[VoiceOfUnreason]

Originally posted by Tattila the Hun

Never noticed that before, but it says "Spreads X-religion" there... How does that work?

When a religion is founded, and on each subsequent turn, each agnostic city which is connected to the holy city has some probability of receiving the religion via a passive process (no missionary required).

If you build the shrine, that probability is doubled.

[Diadem]

Originally posted by Nacht


chance = 20 + (((7 - number_of_religions_in_city) * 80) / 7)

for your own or teammates cities:
chance = 40 + (((7 - number_of_religions_in_city) * 60) / 7)

Why would noone know? We have the SDK.

Looking at these numbers, they seem wrong. If a city has no religion the odds are 100% to spread it? That's clearly incorrect.

Are you sure those aren't the odds of spreading the religion with a missionary? Not from city to city?