Should Protective return to its original form?

[Kuciwalker]

It seems to me that most people think Protective is underpowered except in very few, specific circumstances (e.g. having a member of a team MP game be Pro). Would returning Pro to Drill I and II make it too powerful, or balance it correctly?

[Swiss Pauli]

Drill I and II would probably be overpowered for someone like Churchill (CHM), where you could get Drill IV units with a barracks and vassalage/theocracy.

[Kuciwalker]

With any Pro leader you could get Drill IV with a barracks and either. Right now Churchill needs a barracks, vassalage/theo, and a GG.

Tokugawa could also be a problem.

[Tattila the Hun]

Gotta ask. If I gift a unit to someone, and the unit has trait specific promotion, does the unit keep the promotion? And, if I get a gift, a normal unit, will it get the promotion? If I ad a unit on worldbuilder, they get the promotion...

[Thedrin]

Would returning Pro to Drill I and II make it too powerful, or balance it correctly?

Assuming you're getting that from how it was initially described in previews, its drill I and II to all archery and siege units.

[Senethro]

Yes, not Gunpowder units. This is quite different from the current protective trait.

[Kuciwalker]

That would balance it out somewhat, but you'd still get lots of upgrades of Drill IV units to Riflemen.

[Risa]

That would be good. After all, city protection series are too narrow niched and generally quite weak.

Drill I & II provide 1-2 first strikes, which are moderate in power, even weaker than Combat I when applying them to same type of units fighting against each other. Even up to Drill IV, a total of 3-6 first strikes are very close in powor to Combat I - III.

And first strikes are quite easy to negate. Horse archers and knights immune to them completely, and other mounted, armored, and helicopter units can assign Flanking I & II to gain that immunity.

In all, even if Pro trait grants Drill I & II, it would not be stronger than Agg trait.