Will Civanilla See a Patch with Some of the Warlords Changes?

[monkspider]

I think that a lot of the changes to the core game in Warlords would be approriate to appear in a patch for vanilla, such as
-Chariot bonus against axes
-Nerfed Cossacks/Redcoats
-Improve stacking interface

Possibly a few others that I am overlooking. I have some friends that I play multiplayer with who don't have warlords yet. I think it would be good to keep the vanilla version of the game up to date.

[Fosse]

As I recall, when expansions were made for Civ III, that meant the vanilla version was frozen as-is. I would guess that the same will be true here, as Firaxis would rather support its latest product.

It would be nice though, and I can't imagine it would be too much work, if they updated Vanilla for those who don't want to buy Warlords.

[Nikolai]

I don't believe Firaxis will make any new patch, that would be plain silly of them. But who knows, perhaps a usermade, non-official patch will come some day?

[padillah]

I don't see why not. It's not like they have to do any extra work, it's done... just move it out to a single patch and deploy. Heck, to a given degree it's even been play-tested.

Of course, the chariot bonus and nerfing can be done in XML so... no big deal there.

Tom P.

[yin26]

Keeping vanilla up to date supposes continued support, which makes little economic sense. X-packs are already a bit of a weak proposition in terms of retail sales, so giving players incentive to justify the cost of the XP is in play here.

Of course, some vanilla players will see this as a shake down of sorts...

[monkspider]

OK, fair enough. I was just curious.

[DrSpike]

I would agree it's rather unlikely.

[Son of David]

They are no longer willing to 'support' it but they are certainly still willing to sell it.

Vanilla Civ4 is actually quite polished.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

I was sort of wondering the same thing. I'm liking Civ4, and I think I *may* get Warlords. But I don't want to fall into the trap of buying 2 or 3 expansion packs. Equally, I don't want (in future) to be shut out of MP or succession games because I don't have the latest version

I'd be curious to know what percentage of the 'regulars' here have Warlords already, or plan to get it in the immediate future.

[Qwertqwert]

I got it, I am a little disappointed with it though, the scenarios aren't entertaining enough to play more then once or twice, and the vassal system is all messed up (hopefully they will fix it though) and there was no other major addition to gameplay.

But anyway, you can make those changes yourself, or even edit them to how you want to make it balanced in your oppnion.

[Nugog]

I have Warlords, though I'm probably not what you are refering to as a regular.

Why would Fraxis release such a patch - they want our

[DrSpike]

I have it, though I knew beforehand it was unlikely to add a great deal. I'm hoping that's it for x-packs, but it seems there will be more.

[Nugog]

Originally posted by DrSpike
I have it, though I knew beforehand it was unlikely to add a great deal. I'm hoping that's it for x-packs, but it seems there will be more.

Doesn't mean you have to buy them though.

I mean, for crying out loud, do we really need more scenarios, window dressed civ's, or more new leaders for exisiting civs?

Give us deeper gameplay!

Fix the accursed UN!

Hell, even give us SMAC2 under a different name!

But more window dressing?



Don't get me wrong - Warlord has added SOME interesting stuff, but it has also added lots of dross.

[DrSpike]

Well I'll probably buy it so that I can play comparison games. It's only £17 or whatever and compared to the play I've had from Civ4 it's fine, even though the added value of the x-pack might be small.

I'm not actually sure I want major gameplay changes in an x-pack. Civ4 is a great game and has the potential to be the best TBS game for some years. If they change a lot in an x-pack (with the most recent version always becoming the standard) they could lose that.

[Nugog]

I too think Civ4 is a great game.

The X-packs in this part of the world are about $50 though, so are a bit more expensive.