Post here when you get Warlords

[jdchambe]

The Fry's in Fremont is horrible about shelf placement for all their games. They regularly display 8 year old games that cost $2 in prominent places while placing new games in places where they are difficult to find....

[MasterDave]

I got two copies (one for my wife, who played it for five minutes and went back to World of Warcraft ) at Fry's on Tuesday after work. They had a one-day sale on Warlords, but they did not have it on the shelf. Luckily, one of the guys working in that area went to the stock room and dragged out the box that they were shipped in.

Fry's had not bothered to open their box nor stock the product until I showed up at 5:30 pm, but that it is typical for that store.

[Jonny]

Bought it at a local EB Games (Green Hills), for the standard $29.99 (+9.25% tax)... there were a few on the New Releases display. The guy ringing me up commented that they hadn't sold as many copies yesterday as he would have expected; I guess more and more people are buying online.

[jdchambe]

I'm a little confused about what some people were saying about the Celtic Swordsman. The unit is just a standard swordsman with a free guerilla I upgrade.

Others were saying this would work great against the strategy of building cities on hills to boost defense. But it doesn't. guerrilla I only boosts defense. It doesn't affect offense at all.

The other thing I found frustrating about this unit is that the Celtic special building is a wall that gives all units built in the city a free guerilla I updgrade. If you build those walls in the city where you are building your military units the special Celtic unit has no benefit whatsoever. Normal swordsman built at that spot would have the same benefit, if the Celts were able to build them.

I'm finding the special walls to be nice because they let me beef up the defensive abilities of my spearman and swordsman, but if you assume I'm going to take the time to build that special wall... then the special celtic unit becomes worthless.

[Shogun Gunner]

I picked it up today on the way home from work today.

Best Buy didn't have it yesterday when I stopped by -- so I had to buy other stuff

Fired up a game tonight...

[DirtyMartini]

One other thing --

It runs sooooo sloooooowly. I have a 11 month old PC that would run vanilla with no hiccups until the very late game when there were umpteen million workers and units running around. I'm at 1500AD with a much, much smaller military than normal and the game is slow -- we're talking about molasses here people.

[jdchambe]

no slowness here, and with the exception of the 6 month old video card, my PC is 3 years old.

as for something else that they changed: they changed the colors for a lot of the civs. not sure why. there also appear to be a lot more civs that have colors so similar you can barely tell them apart.

Russia is a crimson red now. They are almost the exact same color as Japan. In my current game they are near each other and I have to lean close to the monitor and squint to tell their borders apart. **puzzled**

[Schtix]

Originally posted by jdchambe
no slowness here, and with the exception of the 6 month old video card, my PC is 3 years old.

as for something else that they changed: they changed the colors for a lot of the civs. not sure why. there also appear to be a lot more civs that have colors so similar you can barely tell them apart.

Russia is a crimson red now. They are almost the exact same color as Japan. In my current game they are near each other and I have to lean close to the monitor and squint to tell their borders apart. **puzzled**

My PC's roughly four years old, and the game runs fine.

But as far as colors go, I always found Germany/England confusing. Now it'll be those and Japan/Russia-damn...

[jdchambe]

they also modified the aqueduct graphics so that the acqueduct is more to scale with the other buildings on the map. that is a nice subtle change. the original graphics for the aqueduct always bothered me. now the aqueducts actually look like aqueducts!

[LordTheRon]

The game's a day early here in Holland! I'm picking up my copy today at Dynabyte.

[dregor]

Originally posted by jdchambe
I'm a little confused about what some people were saying about the Celtic Swordsman. The unit is just a standard swordsman with a free guerilla I upgrade.

Others were saying this would work great against the strategy of building cities on hills to boost defense. But it doesn't. guerrilla I only boosts defense. It doesn't affect offense at all.

The other thing I found frustrating about this unit is that the Celtic special building is a wall that gives all units built in the city a free guerilla I updgrade. If you build those walls in the city where you are building your military units the special Celtic unit has no benefit whatsoever. Normal swordsman built at that spot would have the same benefit, if the Celts were able to build them.

I'm finding the special walls to be nice because they let me beef up the defensive abilities of my spearman and swordsman, but if you assume I'm going to take the time to build that special wall... then the special celtic unit becomes worthless.

I think they were referring to the fact that the Celtic Swordsman can upgrade past Guerilla I, whereas normal melee units can't? And with Guerilla III just added, it allows you to attack a hill without the penalties. Personally I think it's an extremely limited and specialized bonus, and agree that the Celtic UB makes their UU fairly... bland.

I think changing them so that they have a natural +% to defense on all tile types, say 10% or something, rather than just the Guerilla I promotion, would keep with the spirit of them and stack better with the UB.

[DirtyMartini]

Eh, seems slow, not sure why. Maybe I'm just too eager to get to the next turn.

The color thing is an issue, particularly russia and japan. Zulu/Egypt and India/Vikings are pretty close too, but more easily distinguishable than Japan and Russia. I guess they were stuck though, what colors are really left? Pink? Who wants their macemen wearing pink.

edit: wait, China's pink, aren't they. Can't remember, so very, very tired.

[Thedrin]

Or they coud assign colours at the beginning of each game and give the player the option to change the colours of each civ within a game.

[Arrian]

Best Buy, $29.99.

Played a game as Caesar (IMP/ORG just seems good to me).

-Arrian

[Randolph]

EB games, Town Center Mall, Burlington, VT, but I bought the last one :P. So on the off chance there is anyone else in the area, I'd try somewhere else .