Any changes to the core game?

[Prussia]

Really? That's good. Most of the vanilla promotions are kind of bleak.

[DrSpike]

Bleak?

[asleepathewheel]

bland?

[DrSpike]

That would make more sense, though I'm not sure I would agree with it.

[Prussia]

No, bleak, but I guess bland works too.

[DrSpike]

Well the sentence doesn't make sense with bleak in it.

[MasterDave]

Originally posted by DrSpike
Well the sentence doesn't make sense with bleak in it.

Your narrow view of grammar makes me kind of bleak.

[Schtix]

Originally posted by Prussia
Really? That's good. Most of the vanilla promotions are kind of bleak.

What are vanilla promotions, exactly? So far, I think all the promotions in Civ IV (don't know about the ones from Warlords yet, haven't played it) were all pretty understandable and served their purpose.

[MasterDave]

Originally posted by Schtix


What are vanilla promotions, exactly? So far, I think all the promotions in Civ IV (don't know about the ones from Warlords yet, haven't played it) were all pretty understandable and served their purpose.

Vanilla promotions are Bleak 1, Bleak 2, and Bleak 3
Vanilla Cavalry units also get Bland 1, Bland 2, and Bland 3

Seriously, though. One new change I noticed in Warlords that was cool regarding promotions was that pinch (25% vs. gunpowder units) was not available until you actually learn the gunpowder tech. This means that civs that learn gunpowder earlier than other civs and build gunpowder units will enjoy a slightly greater advantage until other civs learn gunpowder. Low-tech knights and horse archers cannot use pinch without knowing how to make gunpowder in Warlords.

I have not gotten to the end game yet, so I do not know if other promotions such as the anti- armor promotion are similarly tied to the tech tree.

[Jvstin]

Originally posted by Solver
The new promotions are accessible through Warlords. And they're good fun!

So, Solver, are you still using your "custom Epic speed" with Warlords?

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by MasterDave


Your narrow view of grammar makes me kind of bleak.

Your inability to speak English makes me sad.

[Solver]

Originally posted by Jvstin


So, Solver, are you still using your "custom Epic speed" with Warlords?

Yep, why? Warlords hasn't really changed anything as far as pacing goes. of course, I play all my tesitng games on regular (not custom) speeds.

[Jvstin]

Originally posted by Solver


Yep, why? Warlords hasn't really changed anything as far as pacing goes. of course, I play all my tesitng games on regular (not custom) speeds.

Well, you hit the nail on the head. I wondered if your review (now out, thanks for your honesty but I expected no less) was going to be for the game as is, or the game as you like it.

[Addled Platypus]

I seemed to promote more often now with warlords than vanilla Civ4

I am not attacking more than usual

and I recieved my first great general !!!

what do, what to do, what to do

[Proteus_MST]

Many of the leaader traits have changed considerably,
to have many of the old leaders possessing one of the newly introduced traits from Warlords.

My favorite, Catherine (Russia), for example, now has Creative/Imperialistic instead of Creative/Financial like she had before.