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    [Okay, it has been eh 'solved'. It's 'D']

    Solver, there is some confusion (allbet it, mainly from me) as to what the caps for the Great Generals are.

    What are the caps for the Great Generals in terms of how much experience is needed for each Great General. For instance, the first cap is 20xp. Is the next cap 40xp or is it 60xp? Is the next cap afterwards 80xp or is it 100xp? Also, does the xp reset just like it does with normal GP's? In other words:

    A)

    1st GG: 0xp -> 20xp
    2nd GG: 0xp -> 40xp
    3rd GG: 0xp -> 60xp
    4th GG: 0xp -> 80xp?

    Or is it:
    B)

    1st GG: 0xp -> 20xp
    2nd GG: 0xp -> 60xp (40xp + 20xp)
    3rd GG: 0xp -> 120xp (60xp + 40xp + 20xp)
    4th GG: 0xp -> 200xp (120xp + 60xp + 40xp + 20xp)?

    Or is it:
    C)

    1st GG: 0xp -> 20xp
    2nd GG: 21xp -> 40xp
    3rd GG: 41xp -> 60xp
    4th GG: 61xp -> 80xp?

    Or is it:
    D)

    1st GG: 0xp -> 20xp
    2nd GG: 21xp -> 60xp
    3rd GG: 61xp -> 120xp
    4th GG: 121xp -> 200xp?

    Or is it:
    E)

    1st GG 0xp -> 20xp
    2nd GG 0xp -> 40xp
    3rd GG 0xp -> 80xp
    4th GG 0xp -> 160xp

    I know C isn't it and I just included it for elaboration purposes. But which is it? A, B, D or E?

    This information has already been released but it is proving difficult (well I am finding it difficult) to correctly interpret what Mr Bee is saying decisively. (Which ever way I look at what he says can be interpreted in different ways)

    Thanks

    Watiggi
    Last edited by Watiggi; July 19, 2006, 13:47.

  • #2
    What about E?

    1st GG 0xp -> 20xp
    2nd GG 0xp -> 40xp
    3rd GG 0xp -> 80xp
    4th GG 0xp -> 160xp
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    • #3
      A and D are the same.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Will9
        What about E?

        1st GG 0xp -> 20xp
        2nd GG 0xp -> 40xp
        3rd GG 0xp -> 80xp
        4th GG 0xp -> 160xp
        Good point. Didn't think about that one. I have also put that into the OP. Thanks

        A and D are the same.

        The end result is the same, but they work differently. With the confusion I have and the explanations that are used to resolve it, I wonder if it uses D, because when someone describes it, it can be interpreted in two different ways: B or D.

        I decided to include A for the purposes of making the point I was making abundantly clear so that there is no confusion what so ever.

        Watiggi

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        • #5
          There is no reason for the acumulated xp not reset. GPP resets for great people, why wouldnt xp reset for GG?

          mrbee told us its A, but then someone had the idea of spreading it like 'you need 60xp for the 2° and 120xp for the 3° GG', which isnt wrong, but forgot to say thats the acumulated value; 60xp for 2°, yes, because the 1° costed 20 and the second 40, so you had to get 60xp to receive your second GG, but that dosent mean it costed 60xp!

          Besides, otherwise imperialistic would be weak.. it seems weak already, without GG points from fighting barbarians.. but lets see.

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          • #6
            I have confirmation from Mr Bee. It's 'D':

            0-20xp earned - 1st GG
            21-60xp earned - 2nd GG
            61-120xp earned - 3rd GG

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Watiggi
              I have confirmation from Mr Bee. It's 'D':

              0-20xp earned - 1st GG
              21-60xp earned - 2nd GG
              61-120xp earned - 3rd GG

              I'm guessing that once you get a unit at 20 GG points no units will be reset but you will have alot of units below 20 GG points.
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              • #8
                So, wait. We have to get a specific unit up to 20 xp to get the first general? Or is that XP cumulative over your whole army?
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                • #9
                  WTF is that...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gdijedi7
                    So, wait. We have to get a specific unit up to 20 xp to get the first general? Or is that XP cumulative over your whole army?
                    It would be way to easy to get the first one if was the entire army but way to hard to get a second one if it was one unit. That is if GG points go along with xp.
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                    • #11
                      I just reread the ign prview and the army may gain GG points as a hole.
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                      • #12
                        Good thing that there are multiple uses of GG, otherwise their appearance would be way too frequent.
                        Last edited by Jaybe; July 19, 2006, 21:44.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Solver
                          WTF is that...
                          WTF is what?

                          Originally posted be Jaybe
                          Good thing that there are multiple uses of GG, otherwise their appearance would be way too frequent.
                          But that would depend on war and how much war occured within each turn. There is a lot of different uses for them and so it would be rather lame if they were rare, come to think of it.

                          Who knows though, maybe this system makes them as regular as the other GP's.

                          I'm guessing that once you get a unit at 20 GG points no units will be reset but you will have alot of units below 20 GG points.
                          No, it should be for the whole army. When your army gets a collective of 20xp from battle (which doesn't seem like much I guess), you get your first GG. Then the cap rises another 40 and you continue. That is my understanding of it - all though I am curious as to why Solver said "WTF is that...". Is something wrong or something?

                          Watiggi
                          Last edited by Watiggi; July 20, 2006, 04:22.

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                          • #14
                            Or we could wait for Warlords to be released, actually play it, and find out........
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                            • #15
                              yeah, but it comes out a little later here. I just like to put together strategies while I wait, that's all. I just need the blanks filled in to know that the strategies can work, hence the questions

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