Flood Plains

[Will9]

There are 3 deserts on a river, but none are flood plains. I thought this was impossible. If want a screen shot you'll have to tell me how to take them.

[Urban Ranger]

Sometimes people just get unlucky.

[Ari Rahikkala]

Are you playing a scenario? In my (limited) experience it seems that the random map generator always makes deserts next to rivers flood plains, though I have no proof for that... however, in premade maps, there's no guarantee at all that a desert next to a river is a flood plain.

[johnmcd]

Nah, it's uncommon, but you do get desert next to rivers. Most maps have at least one example of it I think.

[Will9]

It was a random map. After I posted that I found another desert on a river but not flood plain.

[Badtz Maru]

Originally posted by Will9
It was a random map. After I posted that I found another desert on a river but not flood plain.

Are you using Smartmap? Some of the older versions of that would not display the floodplains graphic on tiles that were in fact flood plains.

And it's not that uncommon, even in vanilla Civ4, for a desert tile next to a river. You may have just caught the wrong end of the RNG.

[Will9]

Originally posted by Badtz Maru


Are you using Smartmap? Some of the older versions of that would not display the floodplains graphic on tiles that were in fact flood plains.

And it's not that uncommon, even in vanilla Civ4, for a desert tile next to a river. You may have just caught the wrong end of the RNG.

No, It wasn't Smartmap. Besides when I put the curser over it, it just said desert.

[Arrian]

I've seen it, recently, on a standard continents map. I had 2 or 3 desert/river tiles.

-Arrian

[Thedrin]

Was a city built on the tile? If you build a city on a flood plain the flood plain will disappear - just like a forest would. Consequently, razing the city produces a desert tile next to a river.

[Gibsie]

That's an interesting observation Thedrin

But yeah, occasionally you do get straight desert tiles next to a river. Just a bug, I think.

[snoopy369]

Desert on river occurs sometimes, it's not a bug. Although i guess you could read the map code if you wanted to be sure

[Thedrin]

Originally posted by Gibsie
That's an interesting observation Thedrin

Barbarians ruining great unclaimed city locations.

[patcon]

Originally posted by Thedrin


Barbarians ruining great unclaimed city locations.

The city still gets the standard city production, doesn't it? So just build the city over the ruins and "no harm done".

Regular desert next to rivers is reasonable. Flood plains should only exist where the surrounding terrain is flat or near where the river empties into a lake, sea, or ocean.

What would be nice is if (non-flood-plain) desert tiles next to fresh water could be irrigated or possibly have cottages. I discovered (quite by accident) that even though normal tundra can't be irrigated, tundra next to fresh water can.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Thedrin
Was a city built on the tile? If you build a city on a flood plain the flood plain will disappear - just like a forest would. Consequently, razing the city produces a desert tile next to a river.

In my case, no. The desert tiles were there in the beginning, and eventually a city was build near them, but not on them. I captured said city from the AI with chariots in somethingorother BC.

-Arrian

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by patcon

What would be nice is if (non-flood-plain) desert tiles next to fresh water could be irrigated or possibly have cottages. I discovered (quite by accident) that even though normal tundra can't be irrigated, tundra next to fresh water can.

Although on reading this, I must have had some crappy starts/city locations, because I've constantly been irrigating Tundra since day 1 :sad: