Charismatic + Warlord

[Simplicity]

So, Charismatic leaders get a +25% bonus to XP.

Warlords provide a 50% bonus to XP to units they're attached to...

Are these cumulative? Does a Warlord unit attached to some other unit under a Charismatic leader get a 75% XP bonus? It's only one unit, but wowzer, that thing is going to grow nicely if so.

[Solver]

The Warlord bonus says 50% more XP, not +50% XP, I think. Can you show where exactly that Warlord bonus was mentioned?

[Simplicity]

Maybe I was misreading:

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/civilization-iv-warlords/715918p1.html

"Once you get access to these guys, you can attach them to one of your combat units, which confers upon them a 50 percent experience bonus, as well as free upgrades whenever they become eligible."

I assumed the bonus was an on-going thing. I suppose it could be a single shot bonus instead.

[Thedrin]

Nevermind.

[Addled Platypus]

can we purchase Warlords through Apolyton?

[Son of David]

Free upgrades for the unit? That alone is worth hundreds of gold coins, if you get a warlord in the early game.

[Solver]

Assuming you can keep the unit alive.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Solver
Assuming you can keep the unit alive.

My money's on using the GG for Academies and Advisors. At least the benefits will last throughout the whole game. Using it as a Warlord seems awfully risky, unless you're generating tons of them in a game.

So roughly how many advancements do you have to get before one of them is generated? And do the points required escalate like the regular GPs do?

[dregor]

Can you use a GG to trigger a golden age?

[BleedTheFreak]

Originally posted by Willem


My money's on using the GG for Academies and Advisors. At least the benefits will last throughout the whole game. Using it as a Warlord seems awfully risky, unless you're generating tons of them in a game.

So roughly how many advancements do you have to get before one of them is generated? And do the points required escalate like the regular GPs do?

You won't see too many in a given game. I did see 2, but one of them was from being the first to get to a late game tech, I forget which one.

The first one I earned took 30 XP, and I noticed it can't be barbarian XP, it has to come from fighting other Civs. The next time the bar reset after I got that first GG, the amount I needed for a second GG (or third, in my case) was 90. I'm not sure if that huge jump was because I had gotten a free GG during the time I was earning the first one, or if the scale just jumps that high. 90. Sheesh.

[Watiggi]

The first one I earned took 30 XP, and I noticed it can't be barbarian XP, it has to come from fighting other Civs. The next time the bar reset after I got that first GG, the amount I needed for a second GG (or third, in my case) was 90. I'm not sure if that huge jump was because I had gotten a free GG during the time I was earning the first one, or if the scale just jumps that high. 90. Sheesh.

There was someone else on a another thread that said it went 30/60. So maybe it skipped 60 because of the free one. Consequently, what speed is that on?

[BleedTheFreak]

Originally posted by Watiggi

The first one I earned took 30 XP, and I noticed it can't be barbarian XP, it has to come from fighting other Civs. The next time the bar reset after I got that first GG, the amount I needed for a second GG (or third, in my case) was 90. I'm not sure if that huge jump was because I had gotten a free GG during the time I was earning the first one, or if the scale just jumps that high. 90. Sheesh.

There was someone else on a another thread that said it went 30/60. So maybe it skipped 60 because of the free one. Consequently, what speed is that on?

That was playing on Normal. I just saw that same thread you were talking about, and it does seem like it skipped 60 since I had gotten the "free" one. Not so free, then?

[El Koeno]

Re: Charismatic + Warlord

Originally posted by Simplicity
So, Charismatic leaders get a +25% bonus to XP.

Warlords provide a 50% bonus to XP to units they're attached to...

Are these cumulative? Does a Warlord unit attached to some other unit under a Charismatic leader get a 75% XP bonus? It's only one unit, but wowzer, that thing is going to grow nicely if so.

The way I understood is was (and somebody who actually has the game can probably correct me if I'm wrong):

Charismatic gives cheaper promotions: So you need 25% less XP for each promotion.

Warlords: Give a 50% bonus to XP earned. So your units accumulates XP faster.

So yeah, such a unit would be able to get some awesome promotions.

[MasterDave]

Warlords have three promotions that they can grant to units they are attached to: Leadership: +50% experieince gained, morale- +1 movement point, and tactics- 30% withdraw chance. These three promotions have no prereqs.

In my first game I am fighting lots of wars, and so far I have earned three GG's. The first one I attached to a unit that was already level 4 (with three city attacks). The promotions were slow to come in this case. What I did with the later generals was to attach them to newbie units, so I could get all three of the special promotions faster (when you attach a GG to a unit the stack of units splits a 20xp bounty- so if you have four units stacked there each gets 5 xps). Now the problem I am having is that the GG units have a tendency to get killed, since they are the strongest and get attacked first.

The free promotions are very nice though, and as I learn to be more careful to protect these units from counterattack, I think they can really make a difference long-term. The other uses for GG's are ok, but so far using them to create superunits and give other units xps instantly seems more fun.