Attacking multiple civ occupied squares

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Something happened in a game last night that probably isn't rare, but I had never seen it before.

At war with the Indians and at peace with the Spanish.

I've eliminated 3 foes on my large island and now dealing with the other 3 civs on the other continent.

Out to sea near one of my coastal cities the Indian armada shows. A frigate and 3 Galleons loaded with riflemen. I've got a destroyer and a frigate, transport and Galleon so I figure no problem. I'll let them come closer and take them out. I position my killers and advance to the next turn.

Ok, the next turn, my destroyer goes out to attack the stack. I guess a spanish galleon with a some riflemen and a settler searching my coast looking for an opening in land that didn't exist decided to use the Indian fleet for cover and they were all on the same space.

I go to attack without realizing that they did that and got the message "do you want to reconsider" I said declare war for screwing up my coastal defense. (I really didn't want to be at war with everyone but what the heck)

MY questions.

1. If I had said reconsider, would the attack have been carried out against the Indians? I didn't reset to check since I was too lazy.

2. Since I was at war with both, which civ gets precedence as being the victim of the attack?
In this situation the Indians were but I'm thinking it's because they had the strongest defending unit.

Needless to say I was one attacking unit short but I killed all the Indians ship, and the Spanish ship got a free pass to land it's troops next to a city but were easily crushed by the defenders. I wasn't ready to handle all four ships unloading and they would have had some happy pillaging before I could finish them.

On the last sea attack both the defenders just had a galleon left, why was the indian ship attacked. I didn't notice promotions to see if one was stronger than the other.

What are the game rules for dealing in multiple occupied squares. Is this a cheat by the ai to force you to declare war when you don't want to or suffer an attack.?

Any thoughts would be appreciated but would prefer facts.

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Darn, all those views but no answers.

WHERE"S BLAKE WHEN YOU NEED HIM

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Maybe it's not as common as I thought it was.

[Quillan]

The initial attack should have been against the frigate (base strength 8) instead of the galleon (base strength 4), pretty much regardless of promotions. I've never had this situation come up for me. On a number of occasions I've tried to move into the square occupied by an enemy unit, and after reconsidering (it always asked) the unit just moved into the square. Are you certain the Spanish galleon wasn't escorted by a frigate also? That could easily explain it.

I cannot be certain since it's never happened, but based on my experience with normal movement, I think had you said "No, I don't want to attack the spanish" it would have attacked the indians. However, I also expect you'd have been forced into that response with every subsequent fight.

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The initial attack went against the frigate (indian) but after I declared war on the spanish. I was wondering after the frigate was killed then it was all galleons so i should have checked the promotions but the next three attacks when against all indian units and the spanish unit skated free.

[Datajack Franit]

TEH SCREENSHOTS would help a lot

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If I had wanted to take screen shots I would have just reloaded and tried it again.

For those with some creativity
Imagine a screen with two stacks. one has INDIAN FRIGATE, INDIAN GALLEON, INDIAN GALLEON, INDIAN GALLEON, SPANISH GALLEON,

SECOND STACK HAS my destroyer, frigate, transport, galleon.

I attack with destroyer and it asks if i want to go to war with SPANISH, I SAID HELL YES. So I was at war with both. I run 4 attacks and all Indian units die. Order of death was INDIAN (frigate, galleon, galleon, galleon.) SPANISH galleon skates free.

NO I DON"T REMEMBER PROMOTIONS ON ANY



SOOOOO, I was wondering if other people had run into something similar.

Come on, I'm sure someone has attacked units in the same square from different civs. WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR EXPERIENCE?

[DrSpike]

All the time you spent posting you could have just reloaded and checked.

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Way past that point and don't have a save anymore.

Another stupid question.
When you kill a city, what happens to all the ships or planes there. Do they die or are they relocated?

[Quillan]

Destroyed.

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I assumed that, but I was playing yesterday and I had conquered a large continent and the Indians settled a worthless city up in the tundra that I ignored for a few turns then checked it out and there were
3 infantry
10 workers
14 bombers

Figured he might be ready to start something so I took out that city and always assumed that ships were destroyed but just wanted to verify the bombers.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

That the AI will leave stacks of planes, ships and workers in a city that's clearly in the line of fire feels like something that should be patched. I don't think I've ever built more than a half dozen workers in any game I've played - I usually capture ten times that many in the course of a long game.

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We were at peace, so I assumed that they were ready to declare war on me and ravage my countryside. Why else would you move 14 bombers there.

Tough luck

I really didn't want to go to war with him but the thought of 10 free workers and destroying 14 bombers seemed just a bit too tempting. AND he was obviously getting ready to backstab me. Not that I had the high moral ground. since I've done it to him at least 5 times this game.
In 10 turns I take all his money to give him peace.

[Arrian]

MY questions.

1. If I had said reconsider, would the attack have been carried out against the Indians? I didn't reset to check since I was too lazy.

I ran into this situation last night. I said reconsider, and the attack against my enemy went ahead.

-Arrian

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THANK YOU. Thank you.
I thought I'd have to wait for blake.

The remaining question is if you're at war with both,
order of defending. I'm assuming strongest defender and working down. If there's a tie, probably order in stack. Or is it just order in the stack overall.