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**DrSpike** · January 22, 2006, 06:33

It's discussed in this thread.

**Dauphin** · January 22, 2006, 06:36

So I have no-one to confirm (with examples) that its true then?

**DrSpike** · January 22, 2006, 07:06

You don't need confirmation.

**Axxaer** · January 22, 2006, 07:08

Confirm what?

**Dauphin** · January 22, 2006, 08:37

That tech costs decrease because other civs have the tech in question - and whether it decrease further if you have open borders, contact with said civs, alliances with said civ etc

DrSpike is saying they do, and yet provides nothing but an assertion which I would like to shore up a bit by example or otherwise refute by counter-example.

**DrSpike** · January 22, 2006, 09:35

No the whole point was that open borders are irrelevant to the way the tech costs change, and the OP was suggesting that they should be a factor.

**Dauphin** · January 22, 2006, 16:47

Well that was how it started, but I wanted to know if tech costs do indeed change as others discover them and have confirmation presented by way of examples.

Simply saying (paraphrased) 'it just does' is not going to quell this annoying little fella.

**DrSpike** · January 22, 2006, 16:58

It just does, until someone makes the effort to test all the permutations. It will happen eventually, of course.

**madmaxxam** · January 22, 2006, 17:52

Wow, I've started quite the semantic battle. It'd be interesting to see what the formulas actually are. I guess someone could do in-game testing by using the worldbuilder and giving other civs techs and seeing how it effects the amount of points they need to research stuff, etc. Sounds like something I don't have time to do though.

**Axxaer** · January 22, 2006, 18:10

I can assure you, tech costs do change as others discover them.

**DrSpike** · January 22, 2006, 18:33

I already told him. He wants proof.

**Axxaer** · January 22, 2006, 18:50

On a side note:

Originally posted by Dauphin
Location: Swimming in the Thames

That whale was one of the top stories over here!

That just shows how boring Australia is

All we had were bushfires.

**xxFlukexx** · January 22, 2006, 20:04

Formulas and details are located here :

Technology Research Explained....

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=146163

Research. It's the fundamental way of advancing in life and in Civ IV, and a necessary part of making your way up the food chain in Civ IV from doormat to winner (whether via space race, diplomacy, conquest, or culture). Unfortunately, it's also the way to figure out how research actually works...

Now what the OP wants is a research pact. This is in some games, but not in Civ4, open borders is not the same as countries helping each other research technologies. I don't want that added on to open borders, if you want to add in a research pact, that'd be fine

The point is that the OP wants a system that allows a Civ that is behind in tech try to catch up and have the system depend on other Civs knowing that technology. Such a system is in place, so what he wants would be redundant and just plain annoying.

**DrSpike** · January 23, 2006, 14:28

Neat, someone quantified it already. Dauphin will be pleased.

**Dauphin** · January 23, 2006, 15:40

Was that so hard, being as I am an accountant (and a forensic one at that) I have a tendency to want details. Now that I have them....

/me is ecstatic!

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