For those of you liking coastal starts..

[snafuc4]

Did you know that you can build the Great Lighthouse /before/ a lighthouse is built - it just has to be part built in your production queue. This is with 1.52 installed, & I haven't yet tried it for other wonders

I was hoping to give you a screenshot, but I can't find where it's been put ATM..

[rjmatsleepers]

Re: For those of you liking coastal starts..

Originally posted by snafuc4
Did you know that you can build the Great Lighthouse /before/ a lighthouse is built - it just has to be part built in your production queue. This is with 1.52 installed, & I haven't yet tried it for other wonders

I was hoping to give you a screenshot, but I can't find where it's been put ATM..

How do you get it part built in your production queue without having built a lighthouse?

More details please.

RJM at Sleeper's

[Nacht]

Re: Re: For those of you liking coastal starts..

Originally posted by rjmatsleepers




How do you get it part built in your production queue without having built a lighthouse?

More details please.

RJM at Sleeper's

He means you only need a part built regular lighthouse to start work on the Great Lighthouse.

[Caligula 37 AD]

Must the partly built lighthouse be in the same city as Great Light, or can it be another city?

- C

[narmox]

I think I accidentally tried this before (wiht 1.09). Or wiat, it was something similar.

I selected to build a lighthouse. Then I added the Great Lighthouse to the queue, but instead of pressing shift I pressed CTRL so it put the GL before the Lighthouse.

End result was, next turn, I was wondering why the heck my city was building a lighthouse and not the GL, till I figured out after a few turns that I was pressing ctrl instead of shift.

[rrs_racer]

Surely that's venturing into the realm of cheating though?

[couerdelion]

Or not cheating

Originally posted by rrs_racer
Surely that's venturing into the realm of cheating though?

It seems to be logical that you would build one big lighthouse rather than need to build a small lighthouse first.

Unless the idea is that the standard lighthouse is just a scale model of the real thing.

[snafuc4]

Originally posted by Caligula 37 AD
Must the partly built lighthouse be in the same city as Great Light, or can it be another city?

Since the lighthouse is a same-city prereq of the GL, I'd imagine it would have to be in the same city, but I haven't yet checked..

[snafuc4]

Re: Re: Re: For those of you liking coastal starts..

Originally posted by Nacht
He means you only need a part built regular lighthouse to start work on the Great Lighthouse.

Yup; that's what I found

[snafuc4]

I can confirm that this is true of Great Library/Library too: part-build (by 1 turn) a library, then add the GLib to the top of the queue

HOWEVER, this is not such a critical bug/exploit as I thought previously: on the next turn the wonder build is cancelled (removed from the queue), & any accrued hammers /appear/ to be lost (so you can't cheat by constantly MMing & switching back to the wonder build every turn), but I haven't fully tested this yet

[Caligula 37 AD]

I too have seen a similar effect with Supermarket and its prereq Grosary (or is it Market, I forget). The game prompted me the supermarket could not be built, but the hammers (with modifiers) was carried over to the next build.

I did this routine for 10+ turns in the same city, and got some 400 hammers carry over. I think it was with v1.52, but not certain as I upgraded in the middle of the game.

This might be an exploit, as you could start this routine some turns before you discover a tech for a Wonder. When the tech is discovered, you are already well on your way to build it.

I did not have any wonders coming soon in the game this happened to me, so I'm not 100% sure the hammers can be used for Wonders. I ended up building a battleship.

Will this be cheating??
(Who's to make the rules of that, anyway?)

- Cal

[Blake]

Ah good, the bit about the build-cancel + hammer refund finally got mentioned. This is a huge bug, not an exploit.

It's especially bad if you burn a Great Engineer.

[MasterDave]

Originally posted by Caligula 37 AD
I too have seen a similar effect with Supermarket and its prereq Grosary (or is it Market, I forget). The game prompted me the supermarket could not be built, but the hammers (with modifiers) was carried over to the next build.


- Cal

Supermarket?? Is there some new national wonder I did not know about tied to having lots of Grocers?

Are you talking about Wall Street?

[OssomTossom]

No, it's not a wonder, it's that thing you get to build when you discover Refrigeration. And you don't need a lot of Grocers (or Markets, or whatever the preq was), just one in the city where you want the supermarket. Like library is needed for university.

[Enigma_Nova]

It's one of those techs that come after Cavalry.
You don't need to worry about it.