Spy...clearly not a James Bond

[Aro]

something between "fine" and "wussy"...

[Silver14]

I thought that was what the Banana was for?

...I need a mod that turns the spy into a banana now.

[macaday]

I just finished my first game (won by UN, whoo hoo!). I wish spies could help my fellow Indians in their revolt against the Japanese. My culture had pushed back the border right to the edge of Nara, and I see the message, "Revolt in Nara" or some such. Would be nice if I could put my spy there and arm the rebels against their oppressors and take the city, or at least increase the chances. Maybe not to the point of buying cities like in Civ2 but given that a revolt is in progress, up the odds of the city flipping.

I found the spy useful only as a scout in enemy territory as advance warning of troop movements. Sabotaged a few improvements.... Would have liked to blow up some roads too!

mac

[chuckdelicious]

I'm sending in Sydney Bristow to steal the Rambaldi artifacts and to blow up all BANANAS!!!!

The Bananas are MINE! ALL MINE!!!

[Tventano]

Checking the happiness situation and then destroying a few of the critical resources means instantly a few protesters in most of his cities. Very powerful when preparing for a war.
When health can be an issue destroing some health resources helps a lot as well.
It is all about timing, having the money and the spies in place.

Resources like oil and coal are mostly protected though.

[pauli]

i want probe teams.

[Strudo]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
You people watch too many Hollywood movies. Real life spies are nothing of that sort.

Of course if real life spies were like what people here want, then you wouldn't know they arn't like that. In fact you wouldn't know anything about them at all. The dude who lives next door and works at the local supermarket might have nukes in his cupboard just waiting for the order.

I think though if advanced type missions are going to be implemented, then the old plant spy mission needs to be reborn. Would make more sense that a spy needs to be planted for a certain number of turns before being able to do a given mission. eg after 10 turns can attemp to destroy a building, 40 turns then can attempt to steal tech. A spy would need to be an accepted member of the community to undertake mission without giving away their own involvment, or would need time to infiltrate an establishment.

If not a plant spy type system, then maybe any given mission takes X turns to complete, with chance of discovery each turn. That would simulate the time required to infiltrate the required areas to complete the mission.

[Mr. President]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
You people watch too many Hollywood movies. Real life spies are nothing of that sort.

And everything else in the game is so damn realistic?

[CBR1100]

Spys are the single most important unit of all my games. Getting near the end I need them to slow the leading races space ship building down a bit so I can catch up lol.

Seriosly, I have manages to win games where I was lagging far behind simply by sabotaging the AI's spaceships and destroying the shield producing tiles.

What I have noticed though, is that when you can get a look inside a city you wonder how the hell they are managing to build so fast. They don't have that many shiels but they can knock a space ship stasis chanber together in a dozen turns. Cheating B*stids

[Enigma_Nova]

Factory, Forge, and Specialist Whoring that the AI tends to love.

[Addled Platypus]

thanks Silver14 for the spy-sub thought


CTP had a killer idea of posioning a city, then a chance of gouing to the next city connected

one can only sabotage somany tiles with only 4 spies, dont waste them on that. by that point you are at war...just pillage with regular units

[Silver14]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex
thanks Silver14 for the spy-sub thought

Yeah I was wondering how to use spies to sabotage all of a civ's Oil reserves if they had an off shore rig. I suppose it is a bit more James Bondish to have a spy get off a submarine and blow up an oil rig. Green Peace will never know...

[Enigma_Nova]

I say we skip the middle man and blow up Greenpeace.

[Cort Haus]

The thing is that James Bond is a fantasy spy, bearing no relation to reality, and a seriously unbalancing concept for this game, IMV. This game is not about modelling reality, but nor is it a mere environment for James Bond uber-units - except in mod-land of course.

Seriosly, I have manages to win games where I was lagging far behind simply by sabotaging the AI's spaceships and destroying the shield producing tiles.

There you go. Spies are not underpowered.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
The thing is that James Bond is a fantasy spy, bearing no relation to reality (...)

You should have told that to the Russians back then, as they apparently thought everything in the James Bond movies were realistic



...or at least so I've been told... and I always believe anything I hear