Set Up Screen

[gmsh1964]

Is there a way to check the game SET UP settings? I do not think there is.

I can list a few, but there are many reasons that this should be able to be viewed by all players.

When I setup, I email the SETUP screen to my opponent (Cut and Paste into Word). That way I do not have an unfair advantage in knowing:

1) the type of map;
2) any custom settings (no barbs or aggressive barbs, etc.., );
3) I think it is possible to set you as settler and your opponent as Noble.., not sure.

Bottom line, any ONE of these three facts not being revealed to your opponent gives the person setting it up an advantage. In the case of #2, it could be a HUGE advantage. Now combine all three and as you can see, the person setting it up has a massive advantage.

Unless I am missing something, I think the game settings should be able to be viewed by all players in the next patch.

Thanks

[gmsh1964]

addendum

To head-off any responses to this thread such as "I want to keep my Civ identity secret." No problem, just block the Civilization and Leader's identity out of the SETUP information that is disclosed to all.

ALL other SETUP information should be available to all players at all times.

Thanks

[pauli]

it is my understanding that everyone could see what was currently selected on the setup tabs, but only the host could change them. i've hosted every game i've played since just after the game came out, though, so i'm not certain.

then again, i only have teammates, not opponents, so it's less of an issue for me...

[gmsh1964]

Hi,

Sorry. I intended this thread for PBEM.

Thanks

[Enigma_Nova]

Test it out. Start a PBEM with Human Bismarck in the 2nd spot, and e-mail it to me at NOSPAMsob55@NOSPAMuow.edu.auNOSPAM
Don't send me the set-up screen, I'll see what information the game lets me find out.

[gmsh1964]

? Enigma, I do not understand why you are asking me to do that?

I think I also do not understand your email code. Do I remove all the references to NOSPAM? Yes, I do.., okay.

Anyway, I do not understand your response. You want me to set up a game and send to you.

[Enigma_Nova]

... Okay, I'll rephrase.
Anyone with a sufficiently powerful brain to grasp the concept of setting up a PBEM that includes both the host and myself, please do so and send the PBEM to me when it is my turn.

You don't have the attitude needed to play Civ 4.
It's obvious that, to test whether a PBEM opponent can see the game settings if they're not the host, you need to make a PBEM where your opponent isn't the host.
I propose this because you're looking for information. You don't have the mental agility to grasp that you can actually discover things on your own instead of being spoon fed,
so your primitive brain gets confused when god forbid, circumstances encourage you to actually USE it.
Well, here's news. I won't think for you. I'll call you a n00b who doesn't deserve to be on Apolyton if you can't understand things, because that's what a Strategy game is about.

//My resentment of idiots is my one weakness, but I'll be damned if I can't be comfortable expressing it.
//Well, it's my main weakness. I'm also prone to head colds.

[Axxaer]

OT

Originally posted by Enigma_Nova
NOSPAMsob55@NOSPAMuow.edu.auNOSPAM

lol... University of Wollongong... Why don't you have your Australian flag showing? I like to know how many other Australians are on this site.

[Aro]

Originally posted by Enigma_Nova
I am able to be polite...

//My resentment of idiots is my one weakness, but I'll be damned if I can't be comfortable expressing it.
//Well, it's my main weakness. I'm also prone to head colds.

I'm impressed.

[Enigma_Nova]

Well ... I guess ya got me there, Aro.
Oh, and I sent a private message to reply to the OT message.

[gmsh1964]

Does anyone have any knowledge of finding out the parameters of the SETUP screen sent once a PBEM match has started?

Thanks in advance.

[Bhruic]

Can't you just hit F8 and click on the 'Settings' tab? I've never tried PBEM, but in normal SP and MP games, it works fine.

Bh

[gmsh1964]

BHRUIC!!!!!!!!!!! I just tried that. That is it!!!!!!!

Thanks a million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Enigma_Nova]

You'd need more exclamation points than that to count to a million.