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  • a military fun of a prince!

    Untill few days ago, i never based my games on military power. (This was my habit since civilization II). I prefer to play gandhi, chop rush for wonders, minimum defense, be the tech leader untill i discover tanks and with the tanks i ruined my enemies and get some sort of victory.

    Two days ago i convinced my self to go for something different, a military game. i forced my self (believe me it was really hard) not to build anything that has no military use.

    For the beginning i chose kubhai khan as he is creative and aggressive. to be on the safe side i choose prince as the playing level standart pangea so that i can still survive after few mistakes. i have to mention that it was with v1.09.

    i build two cities apart from my capital, 3 workers to develop the land around them. then i focused all my production on barracks and keshiks.

    i beelined for horse riding and alphabet. by the time i discovered alphabet i had 8 keshiks with one upgrade, and three archers to protect the three cities.

    this is where all my fun began. i was way behind several techs and positioned last on the score table. i checked the statistics and my number of soldiers was the highest. so i start demanding tributes from everyone. and surprisingly i suceeded. so after the first round of torturing, i was almost the most advanced civilization...

    then i decided to rip the benefits of the military. i checked the power graph and saw that isabella, my neighbour was the weakest. so i directed my keshiks to her closest city. i declared war and captured that city. as i placed 2 keshiks to heal in the newly conquered city the remaining 6 headed to the next city. my home cities were producing keshiks meanwhile. the second city of isabella was weak as well. now it was to time to head for the capital. with the reinforcements i got it was still easy for me to capture madrid. isabella had one city remaining. i made peace with her for two new technologies. she was so mad because the cities i took were the holy cities for three early religions.

    although i started suffering from maintenance costs due to having 6 cities so early, i continued war mongering. my next target was my other neighbour, mansa musa who was the second weakest. i remained calm for few turns untill the resistance in newly acquired cities end and i built few defensive units so that i can use all keshiks for attacks. meanwhile i did not even produced a library or a granary.

    then when all my cities have 2 defending units and i declared war on mansa musa. i nearly had 12 keshiks and it was about 8-10 turns before i captured 3 cities including the capital with pyramids. it was time to make peace for some new technologies including currency.

    by this time my science rate was zero due to high maintenance cost. i had two weak neighbours and a relatively strong one, napoleon. i directed all my army to the closest city to napoleon. i started building markets and libraries followed by courthouses everywhere and increased science rate one step at a time whenever possible.

    as my economy started rolling again, i beelined for construction for catapults and military tradition and gunpowder for strong mounted units to upgrade my veteran keshiks.

    i only built heroic epic, national epic and forbidden palace, no other wonders. when i finished researching military tradition and gunpowder i decreased science rate to zero and upgraded all my mounted units. also military produciton was going on in cities which have completed a temple, a market, a library and a courthouse.

    it was time for another battle, this time with the french. he had two new religions and two wonders, but i had loads and loads of catapults and cavalries. so it was only 20 turns for me to capture 3 cities including paris. time to make peace for some new technologies...

    i had a very nice army so i decided not to stop. the spanish and malinese culture was strangling me and they had no new technologies as they were extremely weak. so i decided to destroy them. it was an extremely easy task with such a huge army.

    the final part of the game was attacking the remaining frech cities and russian empire. for one reason rusians had several new technologies but not military tradition. it was an easy task to destroy them as they had nothing better than rifleman. by the 1800's i won a domination victory and achieved a score higher than 30000, the highest score i ever got.

    it was the first time i played civilization this way. in my previous games i was so focused on improving the cities and land that i can only win the game in late 1900's. although i was lucky to have two weak neighbours which contributed to my victory, the strategy seems still working. now i am so excited to try this strategy on monarch level (which i am sure they will kick my ass ) .
    also i am excited to see the effects of patch 1.52 on battle as the previous game was with the patch 1.09.

    i really recommend to those who love building civilized empires, to go and try for a raw uncivilized warmongering strategy. it is really enjoyable.

  • #2
    My playing style is very similar to yourseaceful,builder,diplomatic until the research'end,then one master one unstopable force.
    But I read the threads about forest chop and decided to try it (just the forests that would be put down later by farms,windmills,watermills).
    So,production went faster then expansion and research and,consequently,the only thing left for old cities to build was military.For the first time,I'm paying maintenance for domestic army.
    This,in the game I am playing now,in this very moment.
    Well,right now I shall attack the traditional warmongers(my cavalry,grenadiers and riflemen will be brave against the enemy'archers,longbows and horses).
    Best regards,

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    • #3
      Can I join the club? I play the exact same way -- gotta love the Ghandi -- but was inspired by one of Vel's posts to try warmongering. Went with the Egyptian and those tasty tasty power-5 War Chariots. Made a big-ass stack, supplemented by 2 or 3 axemen and swordsmen, and kicked some Queen Victoria ass. She was very unhappy with me after I took London, and she refused to pay tribute (actually, I couldn't even try to get her to pay it) so I wiped her out. Took all of her cities . . . and was at 0% science for way way too long, almost went broke.

      Unfortunately, I wimped out and after razing 2-3 more cities of the next point leader, Cyrus, decided to just sit with my 7 cities and try to catch up in tech. In retrospect I should have kept on churning out units and taken out my other rivals, or at least weakened them greatly, but that warmongering is time consuming!

      I ended up with a late victory -- 1990s I think -- but it was never in doubt. As I won the Space Race I had just wiped out Japan (who lost the "Attack The Human Who Is About To Win" lottery) and had 50% of the land and 50% of the population, as well as almost every wonder on the map.

      Still, at the beginning there it was a fun change!

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      • #4
        thanks for the replys.
        hey its good to see people are becoming fan of war mongering .

        i patched my game to 1.52 and still managed to acquire an early victory on prince level without much diffuculty using the above strategy. all i did was military military and military.

        however later i tried a game in monarch level. the maintenance costs went sky rocket and i was bankrupt as i have already built 4 cities and captured 5 cities before i discovered currency. although gold from capturing cities helped me to continue a while, when i give a pause to war mongering my treasury dropped pretty quickly. i could not completed researching currency even i gifted 2 of the cities to their owners. my army got disbanded and i was strangled. a pretty lousy defeat.

        in my second attempt in monarch level, i built libraries in the cities to accelerate the research a little bit so that i was able to get currency and code of laws before i bankrupted. i managed it pretty easily and although i had 8 cities, i still managed to continue researching at 30-40%. having a market and courthouse in every city and a forbidden palace in the other end of my empire let me survive. i continued building military. although i did not have the horses in the begining of the game axemen and swordsmen were enough for the beginning.

        Although i lacked horses, my starting location was fine with rivers and corn resources, few deserts. the result was a victory in 1700's which i am still unable to believe. now i will test again a few times more if the system still works, without depending too much on starting conditions and neighbours.

        i still say warmongering rocks!

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        • #5
          I played a game the other day where I beelined to construction because I had 4 elephants in my starting 3 cities. I built many of them and took out 2 opponents very early on that only had archers for defence. Warmongering can indeed be fun.

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