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  • #31
    Some of my additions:

    Great Prophet

    Gilgamesh
    Herophile (the Delphic Oracle)
    Abraham (Moses used to be 1st)
    Siddharta Guatama (the Buddha)
    Joseph
    David
    Jesus of Nazareth
    Mohammed ibn Abdullah (founder of Islam)
    Ali ibn Abi Taib (founding propontent of Shi'a... since Abu Bakr, the 1st Caliph is also on the list)
    Constantine (made Rome a Christian empire)
    Martin Luther (though maybe he'd oppose being called a prophet...)
    Bahá'u'lláh (founder of Baha'i)
    Joseph Smith (founder of the LDS church)
    Mother Theresa
    Tenzin Gyatso (current Dalai Lama)


    Great Artist

    Leos Janocek (Czech composer)
    Peter Tchaikovsky
    Leo Tolstoy
    George Orwell
    Leni Riefenstahl (too controversial?)
    Orson Welles
    Elvis Presley
    Andy Warhol
    Jackson Pollock
    Ansel Adams
    Milan Kundera
    John Lennon
    Mel Brooks
    Shigeru Miyamoto
    Steven Spielberg
    Tupac Shakur

    Great Scientist

    G. W. F. Hegel
    Wilhelm Röntgen
    Max Planck (also too controversial? the Max-Planck-Institut took many of the scientists formerly of the Nazi-founded Reichsuniversität in Strasbourg)
    Sigmund Freud
    Saytendra Nath Bose
    John Nash (subject of the film "A Beautiful Mind", innovator of game theory, which has been incredibly influential in many fields, though few are aware of it)
    Stephen Hawking (how he gets left out, I'll never know)


    Great Merchant (which is Great Explorer, as well)

    Sir Francis Drake
    Karl Marx (no one would shake up economics like he did until Keynes)
    Sam Brannan (the man who started the California Gold Rush with the headline "There's Gold in Them Thar Hills!")
    Charles Lindbergh
    Friedrich von Hayek (another member of the Chicago School along with Keynes and Friedman, wrote The Road to Serfdom [1944], which remains the seminal socialist critique)
    Deng Xiaoping (modern China's dual political-economic nature is a development of Deng Thought)
    Sir Edmund Hillary
    Brownie Wise (threw the first Tupperware parties)
    Alan Greenspan
    Bill Gates
    Sir Richard Branson


    Great Engineer (also Great Inventor, but "engineering" and "invention" have become merged)

    Marcus Vispanius Agrippa (revolutionized Rome's sewer system)
    Theodore Judah (built the Central Pacific through the Sierra Nevadas)
    Frank Lloyd Wright ("Marge with hair by Frank Lloyd Wright")
    William Mulholland (infamously wanted to dam Yosemite Valley)
    Walter Gropius (founder of Bauhaus architecture)
    J. Robert Oppenheimer
    Philo Farnsworth (invented scanning CRT screens [TVs] and had the coolest name ever; ultimately stumped contestants on a guess-who-I-am game show for which he was awarded a carton of Marlboros - this was the only compensation he ever recieved for his invention)
    Georges de Mestral (invented Velcro!)
    Frank Gehry
    Antoni Gaudi
    Steve Jobs (though Steve Wozniak deserves a spot, too, Jobs fills both roles as mogul and inventor)
    Tim Berners-Lee (the man who makes all this possible)


    I realized I don't have many females on my list. Though Frida Kahlo and Florence Nightingale are going in.

    And why no Great Politician category for folks like Charlemagne or Benjamin Disraeli?
    "The human race would have perished long ago if its preservation had depended only on the reasoning of its members." - Rousseau
    "Vorwärts immer, rückwärts nimmer!" - Erich Honecker
    "If one has good arms, one will always have good friends." - Machiavelli

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    • #32
      You'll get great Politicians when I get Great Generals.

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      • #33
        Great Artist: Bob Ross. (complete with a bushy 'fro)

        Not a joke either. He certainly had and continues to have a great impact on budding artists.
        While there might be a physics engine that applies to the jugs, I doubt that an entire engine was written specifically for the funbags. - Cyclotron - debating the pressing issue of boobies in games.

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        • #34
          Max Planck (also too controversial? the Max-Planck-Institut took many of the scientists formerly of the Nazi-founded Reichsuniversität in Strasbourg)

          Surely nobody has that thin skin?
          Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

          It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
          The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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          • #35
            Originally posted by vee4473
            Great Artist: Bob Ross. (complete with a bushy 'fro)

            Not a joke either. He certainly had and continues to have a great impact on budding artists.
            bob ross would be the best culture bomb ever
            it's just my opinion. can you dig it?

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            • #36
              Thanks for this list, I will keep on the discussion on the Creation forum.

              Personally I think that people should be dead before they are honoured with a place on the Great People list. That usually settles controversies.

              Please post suggestions here!
              Last edited by Optimizer; December 18, 2005, 17:46.
              The difference between industrial society and information society:
              In an industrial society you take a shower when you have come home from work.
              In an information society you take a shower before leaving for work.

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              • #37
                can't believe no one said Mary Lou Henner or Helen Keller!



                /one ticket please
                //did someone say Tupac Shakur? that's as bad as my suggestions, and I'm only joking. Maybe all Great Prophet's should be rappers - would be a good mod
                ///thinks Great People should be tied to their Great Contribution

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Enigma_Nova

                  That's a damn good idea. Military Great People.
                  Problem is, how will you balance the Military specialist out, when a Barracks lets you have a specialist, but you still want great leaders all the way past the Pentagon?


                  And now you use the forums.
                  Well done, Ace.


                  Anywhere you make a men's only organisation, it will exist. There are no laws against it and nobody will care enough to stop you, at least not in Australia.
                  exactly. I've been arguing for great generals (and admirals) since the game's release.

                  P.S. and I still think Jenna Jameson should be a great artist. I'm going to mod that in my game. The tough part is coming up with appropiate graphics for that.

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                  • #39
                    ...how is Max Planck of all people, one of the fundamental founders of quantum mechanics, contraversial!? I'm seriously suprised that he isn't in the game already.
                    "Compromises are not always good things. If one guy wants to drill a five-inch hole in the bottom of your life boat, and the other person doesn't, a compromise of a two-inch hole is still stupid." - chegitz guevara
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                    Jasonian22: Bill, you are STILL young and stupid."
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Bill3000
                      ...how is Max Planck of all people, one of the fundamental founders of quantum mechanics, contraversial!? I'm seriously suprised that he isn't in the game already.
                      Yeah, I agree. If someone seriously thought Max Planck was controversial, then I would say they are just looking to pick a fight.

                      On another entirely different note, is Martin Luther King on the GP list?
                      "Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt." - Sun Tzu

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by djpsychonaut

                        If someone seriously thought Max Planck was controversial, then I would say they are just looking to pick a fight.

                        On another entirely different note, is Martin Luther King on the GP list?
                        It's not so much Planck but the academic institute named in his honor which is controversial. The name "Planck" is now caught up with the historical phenomenon of hidding former Nazi-scientists (for whatever that is supposed to mean) in otherwise reputable academic institutions. The University of Tuebingen had similar accusastions leveled against it in the 70s (see: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger)

                        As for M. L. K. Jr., I don't think he's on the list. But he oughta be. Though as a prophet? Thoreau would have to go in the list first, I think. And it's a bit hard for me view them as prophets. Again, I think there's a missing Great Politician category here (though I think Great Citizen would be subsumed into it).
                        "The human race would have perished long ago if its preservation had depended only on the reasoning of its members." - Rousseau
                        "Vorwärts immer, rückwärts nimmer!" - Erich Honecker
                        "If one has good arms, one will always have good friends." - Machiavelli

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                        • #42
                          Obviously this is an INFINITE subject.

                          I suspect the mythological and fabled Firaxians went through much the same process upon their holy mount. The end result was a relatively easy-to-manipulate file so we mortal Civvers could add all the porn stars, rappers and suspected fascist we want.

                          Speaking of which, a plate of hero cookies to the first person to put together "Hip Hop Civ".
                          "The human race would have perished long ago if its preservation had depended only on the reasoning of its members." - Rousseau
                          "Vorwärts immer, rückwärts nimmer!" - Erich Honecker
                          "If one has good arms, one will always have good friends." - Machiavelli

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by CarnalCanaan


                            It's not so much Planck but the academic institute named in his honor which is controversial. The name "Planck" is now caught up with the historical phenomenon of hidding former Nazi-scientists (for whatever that is supposed to mean) in otherwise reputable academic institutions. The University of Tuebingen had similar accusastions leveled against it in the 70s (see: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger)
                            Honestly, I think it's an obscure controversy. I've never heard of any group trying to have Max Planck taking out of text books, trying to modify his biography, or in any other way restating his legacy.

                            I think he's generally recognized as contributing a great deal to science, and no reasonable person would seriously suggest that he be removed from a list of history's greatest scientists just because of the decisions of administrators for a school that happens to share his name.
                            Last edited by djpsychonaut; December 19, 2005, 16:06.
                            "Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt." - Sun Tzu

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by CarnalCanaan
                              As for M. L. K. Jr., I don't think he's on the list. But he oughta be. Though as a prophet? Thoreau would have to go in the list first, I think. And it's a bit hard for me view them as prophets. Again, I think there's a missing Great Politician category here (though I think Great Citizen would be subsumed into it).
                              On this topic, I think there's a large void in the Great Person categories for social reformers. These people would include Martin Luther (the first protestant), Harriet Tubman (conductor of the underground railroad), Jane Addams (social advocate), Martin Luther King (civil rights advocate).
                              "Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt." - Sun Tzu

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                              • #45
                                EDIT: Sorry, double post
                                "Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt." - Sun Tzu

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