warlord scores

[Lambiorix_be]

I am playing on warlord level and was wondering what a good score is for a space race victory.

My maximum score is 9985 and I don't seem to be able to top that. What is by the way the relation between 'score' and 'game score'?

I first played as chieftain and had a score of 18300 so my ambition was to have at least the same score before moving on to the 'noble' level....

My major cities never grow above 30-35, maybe that is part of the problem...

[The keeper]

I started playing on noble, and have since moved up to prince.

If you can beat warlord fairly easily, go ahead and make the jump up to noble.

[Dis]

30-35! I'd kill to have cities that large (though not willing to sacrifice production and commerce )

I haven't beaten 10,000 on warlord with a spaceship victory. But I have done it with conquest and domination victories. You'll find you'll get more points with domination and conquest victories. It may not be right, but that's the way it is.

As for the relation. The year you finish the game is a big factor. The earlier the year, the bigger the difference between the score the last turn of the game, and the score you see in the hall of fame screen.

[Calvin Vu]

I got to 30,000+ for a space race victory on Monarch as my top score. Never played warlord before so I can't tell .

I just learned that if I put the cursor over the statistical ranking then it tells me what the score I get if I win this turn (at the very bottom of the statistics). For every turn that I don't win (in 18th century when I look at it every turn), I lose about 200-300 points. For every decent-sized cities I capture, I get some 600 points.

What do you mean by your major cities growing above 30-35 size ? I never have them anywhere that close. NEVER EVER (imagine Alexander-like hand motion ). Maybe you need more specialists instead of fattening up your cities with useless citizens and find ways to get them entertained so they won't burn th ecities. That will help to win the space race ealier.

[Crossfire]

Seems to me the only way to get cities that large is to build farms on flood plains and have plenty of them at that. I always build cottages on them though as I would rather have the 4 or 5 commerce then I would another 1 or 2 food. Most of my cities top out around 20.

[Lambiorix_be]

Originally posted by Dis
As for the relation. The year you finish the game is a big factor. The earlier the year, the bigger the difference between the score the last turn of the game, and the score you see in the hall of fame screen.

Thanks, I was kind of suspecting it.

Originally posted by Calvin VuI just learned that if I put the cursor over the statistical ranking then it tells me what the score I get if I win this turn (at the very bottom of the statistics). For every turn that I don't win (in 18th century when I look at it every turn), I lose about 200-300 points. For every decent-sized cities I capture, I get some 600 points.

Ah that's a good hint.

Did anyone had a diplomatic victory? I always try to get it but never seem able to convince everybody to vote for me. No problem in passing all the other resolutions but make me making 'supreme ruler of the world' is apparently a bridge too far

Originally posted by Calvin VuFor every decent-sized cities I capture, I get some 600 points.

I guess this means that a conquest victory is valued more then a culture victory. That bodes not well for me for I am not a warmongerer. Only very early in the game I attack/destroy a neightbour (with max 2 cities) so that I have a vast area to grow (I always play huge maps) and so there is no need to attack anyone else (except if the other one declares war on me off course). I like my empires to be peaceful, rich and cultural...

[Quillan]

I won't say it's valued more highly as such, but if you hover your mouse over your score the same popup will give you a breakdown of your score. You get so much for population, so much for land area, so much for technology and so much for wonders. Taking other's cities (whether by cultural flipping or conquest) adds to both population and land area, and can add wonders you didn't have before. All of these increase your score immediately. Add in the fact that conquest/domination victories can happen much earlier in the game than cultural/diplomatic/space race victories do, and you tend to get a higher score that way.

[Calvin Vu]

My top score of 43,000 was on a diplomatic victory. I captured just enough cities to have enough votes to give myself a victory at the UN at the ealiest year possible, around 1796 (instead of waiting to build the spaceship parts).
The two remaining relevant civs have been on good terms with me for the whole game but one voted for himself, of course, and the other abstained.

I don't think you can expect to get anybody to vote for your diplomatic victory. I haven't heard of anybody succeed in doing that yet.

If you look at the statistics I pointed out earlier then the factors that affect the scores are: population, wonders, technology, and future tech, IIRC. Domination-based diplomatic victory probably gives the earliest victory with a high population for the highest scores. A total conquest victory probably gets lower scores since you waste a lot of time (and points) chasing the little cities on the islands.

[Dis]

I've gotten people to vote for my diplomatic victory before. Just never enough to push me over the edge. If they like you enough, they'll vote for you.

[grapedog]

I've won a Diplomatic victory on Noble, but not higher. I had to do a lot of goodwill tours, changing my religion to match the people I knew for the longest time and things of that nature. It took 3 votes to get it done though as I had to bribe the hell out of one of the bottom rung AI's.