Culture bomb bug

[wilykat]

Twice now I've set off a culture bomb in a city I just took and had my borders expand significantly but I don't get control of the squares right outside the city. This ends up taking multiple turns to resolve itself (i.e. not the turn after). Any idea what's going on?

http://www.funkware.com/~mjlewis/weird0000.JPG and
http://www.funkware.com/~mjlewis/cbomb0000.JPG are both screenshots from right after I set off the bomb.

[Enigma_Nova]

The numeric culture valeus in tiles are per-civ, not per-city.

[Wittlich]

Actually Wilykat, since you just took over the city from the enemy, the City is currently in "Resistance-Mode" and will NOT expand past it's single tile until after the resistance has ended for the city - normally around 3-5 turns. If you go into the "city view" of the city that you just took over, you will see how many turns it has for resistance (the number of turns is located in the top middle of the city view screen).

So with this in mind, hold-off any "culture bombs" of newly gained cities until their resistance phase has ended...then culture bomb away!

[wilykat]

oh really? My friend had told me that using the culture bomb ended the resistance in the city immediately. Perhaps he was wrong.

Notice in both of the screenshots that there's no little fist icon over the city name, and it's asked me what I want to build there already.

- Mike

[polarnomad]

Originally posted by Wittlich
Actually Wilykat, since you just took over the city from the enemy, the City is currently in "Resistance-Mode" and will NOT expand past it's single tile until after the resistance has ended for the city - normally around 3-5 turns.

From those screenshots it looks like Wilykat hasn't taken over the cities yet.

Originally posted by wilykat
Any idea what's going on?

Culture bombs sometimes don't push back long-standing borders, but seem to weaken the cultural influence of the city/ies in the area you bomb, especially around opponents' cities that produce a decent amount of culture themselves. The culture that is generated by your cities surrounding the opponent's then slowly whittles away their remaining borders, hence the reason you noticed it takes a few turns for a city to actually flip over to you.

It's not a bug. The more culture that your opponents' cities are producing in the area in which you drop the culture bomb, the less dramatic the bomb's influence will be.

Have you ever tried going into your globe view and selecting the cultural overlay? It helps to find out where you and your opponents cultural strengths and weaknesses lie.

[polarnomad]

Originally posted by wilykat
oh really? My friend had told me that using the culture bomb ended the resistance in the city immediately. Perhaps he was wrong.

This only works if you are dropping a culture bomb around relatively young cities with little cultural influence.

[polarnomad]

Originally posted by Enigma_Nova
The numeric culture valeus in tiles are per-civ, not per-city.

I'm not 100% certain of what you mean here, so forgive me if I misinterpreted.

It feels to me like cultural influence is generated individually by cities in zones, and that these cultural zones fit together like the pieces of a puzzle. However, cities with great influence can overlap and strengthen the influence of nearby cities, thus shielding them from neighboring civs' culture. Make the mistake of placing a new city near an opponent's strong cultural zone, without cultural support, and you risk having it flip to him/her simply because it couldn't resist culturally.

[Enigma_Nova]

On further analysis (read: taking over an enemy capital), the Culture values seem to be split between City and Civ in a way that I can't determine.
More research (read: Conquering of enemy capitals) is needed.

[Krill]

Building a Great Work in a resisting city stops resistance in that city.