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  • What aspect/feature of Civ4 do you like the least?

    Before we begin, I wish to say that I consider Civ4 to be the best civ game so far, so this is not meant at all as a flame thread. Still, I believe there are some aspects of the game that could have been better. Hence this thread.

    To answer my initial question, for me it is how the multiple religions in a city are handled.

    Sure, you can say that religions you do not control (via holy city) provide other civs with a LoS into your cities and give them money, but assuming a situation in which you have all 7 holy cities (by some luck or conquest), there is no disadvantage whatsoever of having them all in each single city.

    This imo is both unhistorical and unbalanced. Throughout history, differences of religions were not only a cause for international conflicts (which are represented quite well in Civ4 imo), but also internal strife, from pogroms, to persecutions, to civil wars. Sure, I realise Firaxis wants to keep religions politically correct, but even if so, some sort of an abstracted way of showing such strife (especially under systems such as organized religion or theocracy, which are not too nice for non-state religions) should be present, if only in the form of unhappy faces for such non-state religions.

    As it is now, even if you set up, say, a christian theocracy, your jewish, muslim and buddist subjects not only will be perfectly happy, but will also generate culture in their temples and research in their monasteries, oblivious to the fact that the theocracy effectively prevents them from spreading their belief around.

    So this particular aspect of the game is imo sub-par, compared to the otherwise sterling standard set by Civ4.
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    - Frank Herbert

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    The inability to play on a specific map with a specific set of opponents, except by going into the XML file for the map and editing the list of opponents.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by JackRudd
      The inability to play on a specific map with a specific set of opponents, except by going into the XML file for the map and editing the list of opponents.
      How does that differ from custom game?
      The problem with leadership is inevitably: Who will play God?
      - Frank Herbert

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      • #4
        Mmm, I would like be able to see another civ's civic settings without hailing that civ's leader. (at least, I haven't found any other way of doing this)
        He who knows others is wise.
        He who knows himself is enlightened.
        -- Lao Tsu

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        • #5
          the absolutely abysmal performance, even with everything turned down.
          it's just my opinion. can you dig it?

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          • #6
            The fact that units can easily be upgraded to speed through forests and overhills and yet across plains are still dead slow. Makes no sense!

            It should be HARDER to get turbo-speed through forests and mountains and EASY to get turbo-speed through plains and grasslands.

            My $2 million.

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            • #7
              Mmm, I would like be able to see another civ's civic settings without hailing that civ's leader. (at least, I haven't found any other way of doing this
              Ditto.

              AND: the 1.09 patch causing a plethora of problems on both my systems when the game worked fine with the stock install. (I've since reverted)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Martinus

                How does that differ from custom game?
                You can't select a specific map in a custom game, merely a map type.
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                • #9
                  As pauli said, absolutely abysmal performance on everything.

                  As I've said on other threads, this game is brilliantly designed. It's my favorite of the series. But the programming is very kludgy and mediocre.

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                  • #10
                    Would like an option to tone down barbarian involvement but not turn it off completely.
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                    • #11
                      When making a Custom Map, I can't put random civ starts in, I have to specify who's going to be where.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JackRudd
                        The inability to play on a specific map with a specific set of opponents, except by going into the XML file for the map and editing the list of opponents.
                        Pick a specific set of opponents in "custom game," then save the initial file created somewhere else.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cordelayne
                          As pauli said, absolutely abysmal performance on everything.
                          Define "abysmal performance." How slow is "abysmal?" How powerful is your computer?

                          For me, the game isn't all that slow.
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                          • #14
                            air warfare and modern naval combat.

                            I also don't like the conquerer playstyle being nerfed. SMAC will always have the best balance of the 3 styles (conquerer, builder, hybrid).

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                            • #15
                              But the programming is very kludgy and mediocre.
                              Elaborate?

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