Why is the world builder so slow? Fix?

[xpfusion]

I always liked to create my own maps, but in Civ4 it's a real pain. As far as I can see, there is no "create map" mode, so you have to first start a new game, and then enter the world builder to modify the map (so rules etc for the game cannot be changed, they are locked with the map). But the real problem is that painting maps in Civ4 is terribly slow (this is on a Pentium D 830 with 4 gigs of ram). Every time I click on a tile to paint terrain, the tile takes about 5 seconds to change, and painting multiple tiles at once by dragging the cursor is impossible. Does anyone know a fix for this?

[snoochems]

I know... my computer isn't as obscenely over the top as yours, but it's still considered 'very good' (2.5GHz A64, 1.5GB RAM, X800XTPE) and it making a map in world builder is pathetically slow.

5seconds? Try 7-8 seconds here. And placing rivers is a nightmare.

[jlhughes]

I don't like the idea of locking the rules with the map. I don't see a problem with rules changes as long as the players know about them. I like to change some of the rules but would still like to produce random maps to play with them.

[Destroyer]

They always do it!!!!!

They always tell us "this is the most moddable Civ ever", and then fail to give us the tools to do it. Any adjustments you make now get overwritten with any new patches anyway.

Why dont they just lock everything down and say "wait for the CIV - Play with your Nuts expansion", which is what we will have to do anyway to get anything at all out of this game on the mods front.

[Diadem]

What bothers me too is that you can only make scenario's, not maps.

You can make a map from 4000 bc of course. But if you then change difficulty, the starting units the AI has do not change, while those normally change with difficulty.

I want to be able to make a true map. Where I can play it, either with fixed starting locations for fixed civs, fixed starting locations for random civs or completely random starting locations.

That was possible even in civ2. Why is it not possible now?

[Enigma_Nova]

Yes, this is my main complaint about Civ 4.
Every action you perform in the Worldbuilder gets the map saved to Hard Disk as a backup undo copy, instead of simply saving the results of your action into RAM.

You cannot make a Map, you cannot changed the Rules, you cannot place "Generic Civ Starts". For a Worldbuilder, it's not very useful!