Industrious and Wonders building?

[Handel]

Please explain how to calculate the turns for wonders building when the leader is industrious + stone/marble/copper etc? And what happens when the civic is organised religion wich reduces the turns with 25% more?
So we have 50% reduction from industrious + 50% reduction from resourses + 25% from the civic...

[clarkcd]

You add the bonuses together to modify the base hammers used towards said wonder.

So as an example lets say your city produces 10 hammers and is working on a 200 hammer wonder. Normally this would take 20 turns. With the bonuses you've listed the base hammers of 10 would be multiplied by the total bonus (+125%) for a total of 22.5 (rounded up or down I'm not sure) and a build time of 9-10 turns depending on rounding.

[MasterDave]

Does the 25% build bonus from organized religion apply to wonders? I have always assumed that they are a different category than "buildings".

[khumak]

Yep. Applies to both normal buildings and wonders but not units.

[ac_snowman]

The industrious trait is perhaps the most powerful IMHO.

I'm in the latter stages of a Noble Terran game playing Bismark...industrious and expansive. I almost feel sorry for the AI.

[MasterDave]

That's what I thought too, but I started an epic game last night on Prince Level/ Pangea as England (Phi/Fin). It is the first time I have played a non-industrious nation and I am still getting 3/4 of the wonders I start building. It may be too early to tell, but I am not sure if industrious is as much of a neccessity as I thought it was at first.

[khumak]

You'll wind up stronger with Phi than Ind if you have a couple of cities with high enough production to still build most of the wonders but if you get a less than ideal start you're MUCH more likely to miss your key wonders without Ind. Overall I think I still like Ind better. My favorite so far is Bismark.