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  • #46
    Make a screenshot with your tables

    Btw, are you sure the numbers are correct? It seems to me that the chances of success for the stronger unit are even higher than in your scenario (wounded unit attacking with 100% power), which is impossible.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Hamdinger

      I could even make Excel charts for the curves, but I have no idea how to post that.
      In Excell, select your chart and do ctl-C to copy it. The open Paint (or your favorite graphics app) and ctl-V to paste it. Save as a JPEG or GIF, et voila!
      Keith

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      • #48
        I ashamed to admit I don't know how to post screenshots. Doesn't it involved hosting the picture somewhere?

        I can double check the numbers, but I don't think it's impossible for my method to have lower probabilities. Remember that I'm not changing the damage a wounded unit does - only its chance to hit. It still does fully reduced damage. The chance to hit in your method is less than mine, but the damage done is more (for wounded units).

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        • #49
          Then I misread/misunderstood something in your post. I have to read it carefully again. I thought that my idea is between the original and your idea.

          Make a screenshot, save it and then post it.
          You can attach the file to your post directly (there is an attach button when you post something) or there is an upload funtion on Apolyton (check the links on the top of your page) and after you uploaded the file you get a code to link the file in your post.
          "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
          --George Bernard Shaw
          A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
          --Woody Allen

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          • #50
            Ahh, I understand now what is the difference between our proposed models.
            You modified the combat so that a wounded unit would retain its initial strength in calculating the chances to hit, but the damage done would be the same as in the current model (ie damage done with the modified strength value).
            As opposed to this, my model would keep the current system, reducing the unit's strength for both formulas (chance to hit and damage done), but to a lesser extent than currently done.
            "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
            --George Bernard Shaw
            A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
            --Woody Allen

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            • #51
              The graphics shows the 1st case scenario, representing the probability of succes of a unit A with a strength of 2n against a unit B with a strength on n, in relation to the the health of unit A.

              In case it's not visible:
              blue - current combat system
              pink - system proposed by Hamdinger
              yellow - system proposed by myself.
              Attached Files
              "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
              --George Bernard Shaw
              A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
              --Woody Allen

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              • #52
                It can easily be observed that my proposed model is quite ****ty

                ... but so is the current model, where a unit with a strength of 20 has basically zero chances of success against a unit with a strength of 10, if it lost more than 60% of its hitpoints.

                What Hamdinger proposed is not bad. Now if we could make it a bit smoother.
                "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
                --George Bernard Shaw
                A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
                --Woody Allen

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                • #53
                  In order to have the graphics of the second scenario as well (units with the same strength):

                  As you can see my model is not so bad as in the previous case Actually it seems quite good until a point.
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                  "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
                  --George Bernard Shaw
                  A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
                  --Woody Allen

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