Do Missionarys disappear after you spread...???

[LongKnife56]

I wonder why they made it so you can only send missionaries into civs with which you have an open border. I avoid open borders so they're useless to me.

[ezzumsss]

Thanks for the helpfull info! I think I quite love all the different missionaries. But they do generate a huge demand for all sorts of temples ;-) Oh well, that kind of resembles reality I guess.

[Martinus]

Originally posted by LongKnife56
I wonder why they made it so you can only send missionaries into civs with which you have an open border. I avoid open borders so they're useless to me.

That's exactly why. If you want to avoid open borders, you have to give up on a number of possibilities, such as sending missionaries or great merchants to foreign cities.

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by ezzumsss
Thanks for the helpfull info! I think I quite love all the different missionaries. But they do generate a huge demand for all sorts of temples ;-) Oh well, that kind of resembles reality I guess.

You don't have to build those religious buildings, but if you do with each religion you get a very very very large stack of bonuses. 7 temples = 7 happy people, 7 x the culture one temple generates. 7 cathedral-type buildings gives you an insane amount of culture.

[warren34]

A question.

For some reason in my latest game I didn't get any religion at all before 1700. Is there any way to "trick" religion into my Nation?

[Proteus_MST]

Aside from having open border treaties with as much religious civs as possible (which enables traderoutes between your cities and those of enemy civs [one way to spread religion] and allows foreign missionaries entry into your territory) I don´t see any way to increase the influx of religion into your country.

[Skanky Burns]

I suppose at the extreme you could capture an enemy city that has a religion and then use that city to spread religion(s) to your other cities. Better yet, capture the holy city of a religion so you get gold for all the cities with that relgion too.

[AuraSeer]

Originally posted by Martinus

That's exactly why. If you want to avoid open borders, you have to give up on a number of possibilities, such as sending missionaries or great merchants to foreign cities.

You don't need Open Borders to use a great merchant. They can walk straight across cultural lines, just like caravels.

[Broken Hawk]

How exactly do you use missionaries to convert a foreign city to a particular religion?

All I've managed to do so far is send them to them to their deaths.

[khumak]

IMO it's not worth it to build missionaries to spread to AI cities. Just build a shrine and it'll spread slowly on it's own. For your own cities though it IS worth it because it allows you to build an extra temple and an extra monastary for every religion you have so I always spread all religions I have access to to all of my cities. Even the ones founded by the AI. A city with 7 temples and 7 monastaries is a serious production/research powerhouse, especially with Ankor Wat for the extra hammer per priest.

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Broken Hawk
How exactly do you use missionaries to convert a foreign city to a particular religion?

All I've managed to do so far is send them to them to their deaths.

Maybe you made the mistake of sending them to foreign cities
which already had lots of religions.

My missionaries rarely fail on foreign cities
and if they do it´s normally only on cities which already have 3 religions and more.

[Peets]

It's a very good idea if you build a shrine. The incomings are great!
It's also good for a diplomacy boost.

[Broken Hawk]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST


Maybe you made the mistake of sending them to foreign cities
which already had lots of religions.

My missionaries rarely fail on foreign cities
and if they do it´s normally only on cities which already have 3 religions and more.

Really stupid question: Do you try to enter the foreign with your missionary? When I do that, they just disappear and nothing else happens. Maybe I need to pay more attention to what I am doing.

[TheArsenal]

Has anyone seen an AI Missionary? Because I haven’t. I’m uncertain if that is a product of their not being built and used properly, their being used exclusively within the AI own Civ, or the fact that the religions I don’t found myself are usually on the other side of the globe. Whatever it is, I have yet to see one moving about in the wild.

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Broken Hawk

Really stupid question: Do you try to enter the foreign with your missionary? When I do that, they just disappear and nothing else happens. Maybe I need to pay more attention to what I am doing.

Missionaries disappearing upon entering a foreign city...
sounds like a bug.

That´s one thing that shouldn´t happen (i.e. at least if you don´t try to enter cities of Civs you´re at war with )
Normally your missionary can enter a foreign city (of a civ you ´ve got an open borders treaty with) without problems and then (unless it is a theocracy and you try to spread another religion than their state religion) try to convert the heathens like you would do with missionaries in your own cities.