I'm now planning a Leader Mod

[Verenti]

Help me mod the leaders into some sanity. Their choices have gone off the deep-end for atleast how the favoured civics are concerned.

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Universal Sufferage: (5)
Washington, FDR, Fredrick, Asoka, Gandhi

Theocracy: (1)
Saladin

Police State: (5)
Montezuma, Qin Shi Huang, Genghis Kahn, Peter, Isabella

State Property: (1)
Mao Zedong

Hereditary Rule: (6)
Hatshepsut, Louis XVII, Alexander, Huayna Capac, Kublai Kahn, Catherine

Free Religion: (1)
Elizabeth

Repersentation: (4)
Victoria, Napoleon, Bismarck, Cyrus, Caesar

Mercantilism: (1)
Tokugawa

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I think it should look more like this:

Universal Sufferage: (2)
FDR, Asoka

Theocracy: (3)
Saladin, Isabella, Montezuma

Police State: (4)
Qin Shi Huang, Genghis Kahn, Peter, Napoleon

State Property: (2)
Mao Zedong, Lenin(Catherine)

Hereditary Rule: (7)
Hatshepsut, Louis XVII, Alexander, Huayna Capac, Kublai Kahn, Bismarck, Cyrus

Free Religion: (1)
Elizabeth

Repersentation: (3)
Victoria, Caesar, Fredrick

Mercantilism: (1) (Althought I think Tokugawa is more suited to Hereditary Rule)
Tokugawa

Free Market: (2) (Not that I think Washington was all about Free Markets, but we needed atleast one American leader thats pro-freemarket. Maybe I'll add Regan or Truman, If possible to fill this role)
Mansa Musa, Washington

Pascifism: (1)
Gandhi


Now I don't know much about some of these leaders (Meso-Americans, Eygpt) so if anyone has any suggestions for new characteristics or ideal civics (or even new leaders),Espeically if it involves getting some of the people OUT of Hereditary Rule ,Feel free to post.

[MarkG]

sanity doesnt equal balance

[Verenti]

True, but plenty of game have teams that are harder or easier to play on top of the difficulty settings. This wouldn't be much different.

[prscormier]

What does favoured civic mean? is it a civic they get for free?

[Nikolai]

It probably means the civic the leader likes the most, and therefore will tend to choose when getting the chance.

[LordShiva]

I don't know why Ashoka gets Universal Suffrage - he was an emperor, after all. Gandhi is a toss-up between Universal Suffrage and Pacifism (the latter might make him into a real wuss, though). Catherine came to power not through hereditary rule but through marriage. Doesn't suit Bismarck either (on your list). Representation for Caesar is kinda silly. Elizabeth should get Mercantilism.

[alms66]

Originally posted by Nikolai
It probably means the civic the leader likes the most, and therefore will tend to choose when getting the chance.

Kind of like how the AI used to have a "favorite government", that never really worked...
Now you'll have an AI that has a "favorite civic" that never really works.

[Verenti]

Okay, What should Caesar, Asoka and Bismarck have then? I really don't know much about Caesar or Asoka.

I was, however, under the understanding that Bismarck was a Die-hard supporter of the Prussian Monarchy and was a staunch supporter of Conservitive values (Against the whole Liberal and Socialist movements of the 19th century).

[H Tower]

I wouldn't have thought it possible before, but maybe we need a Civ4 creation forum already, so we can put all these wildly theoretical mod threads in one place.

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by alms66
Kind of like how the AI used to have a "favorite government", that never really worked...
Now you'll have an AI that has a "favorite civic" that never really works.

yep, i fear the same!

i just hope their preference has only a small weight in deciding what they need. for instance it would be unfortunate if a war torn situation anything else but war-supporting would be chosen.

[lockstep]

Originally posted by alms66
Kind of like how the AI used to have a "favorite government", that never really worked...
Now you'll have an AI that has a "favorite civic" that never really works.

I can't recall a single instance in Civ3 where an AI civ would try to persuade me to change government. According to the screenshots released so far, this will be different in Civ4.

And I guess every leader will also have a "shunned" civic.

[Nikolai]

I think Firaxis will get it to work. After all, they did so with SMAC.

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by H Tower
I wouldn't have thought it possible before, but maybe we need a Civ4 creation forum already, so we can put all these wildly theoretical mod threads in one place.

We also need a PBEM forum already.

[Martinus]

Having Asoka for Universal Suffrage is like having Isabela for Freedom of Religion.

[Verenti]

Okay, So I've moved Asoka to Police State. Would that be the correct place?