promotion question

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
why? usually you don´t have the same units for 1000 years

Actually you often do have the same units for a long time

[Datajack Franit]

I mean in the real world

[GeoModder]

Well, in the real world they're called regiments, brigades, companies and such... which can have a longer lifetime if it's hosting 'empire' exists long enough.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
I mean in the real world

Real World?

What's that?, sounds like a scary place



Who cares about the real world? If Civ was to be realistic there wouldn't be units as it is now..

[Aro]

Originally posted by Adagio



Real World?

What's that?, sounds like a scary place

And boring, too

[Datajack Franit]

only because you cannot use ICBMs in the real world it doesnt mean it´s boring

[Addled Platypus]

think of it as a legacy of specialized training

Green Berrets, Delta Force , SEAL's

its never the same group of pepole, just specialized training

[Datajack Franit]

indeed

[Yolky]

so what would you do if you spent all your cannon fodder to promote your unit, you are happy, and he dies the next turn since he was the only unit left because all the cannon fodder was gone?

[Addled Platypus]

I always leave a guard

[Barinthus]

I wonder if promotional bonuses are stackable? Like you could get city raider bonus and forest bonus on one unit...

Also I wonder would you be able to see whether if your enemy's unit have a bonus or not? Personally I prefer it that you cannot see their bonus unless you had a sucessful spy action or whatever they plan to implement into the game.

[Aro]

Originally posted by Barinthus
I wonder if promotional bonuses are stackable? Like you could get city raider bonus and forest bonus on one unit...

Problematic. What happens if we go too far? Will we have some kind of super-unit? I don't like it, it's not civ.

Also I wonder would you be able to see whether if your enemy's unit have a bonus or not? Personally I prefer it that you cannot see their bonus unless you had a sucessful spy action or whatever they plan to implement into the game.

I prefer it that you can see the skills of your enemy.
IMHO, this spy thing could work if we have some kind of (optional, please! ) micro-management on warfare. I've read something about MM being a choice in public works, but nothing about combat or something like that.

[sophist]

Originally posted by Aro

Problematic. What happens if we go too far? Will we have some kind of super-unit? I don't like it, it's not civ.

That is easily addressed by making each successive promotion harder to get. Your first promotion might come after the first victory, the second promotion after the third victory, the third promotion after the seventh victory, the fourth after the 15th victory, etc. ad infinitum. It would be effectively possible for a unit to get every single promotion under that scheme, as it would have to win something like a trillion battles to get all 40. I'd be surprised if they weren't already doing something like this.

[Aro]

That's better. I trust Firaxis...

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by sophist


That is easily addressed by making each successive promotion harder to get. Your first promotion might come after the first victory, the second promotion after the third victory, the third promotion after the seventh victory, the fourth after the 15th victory, etc. ad infinitum. It would be effectively possible for a unit to get every single promotion under that scheme, as it would have to win something like a trillion battles to get all 40. I'd be surprised if they weren't already doing something like this.

This is still possibly problematic, if promotions are preserved with upgrades. A unit that's been upgraded from a 4000 BC warrior shouldn't be invincible in 2000 AD. Perhaps upgrades should lead to "demotions"?