What are your criteria for including a civ in the game?

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword

I had to keep the list short- after all didn't want to take up several pages worth of space with all the wonderful things the Dutch have produced.


I still have blissful memories of the great Vermeer exhibition at the Mauritshuis years ago.

[Aro]

Originally posted by molly bloom



I had to keep the list short- after all didn't want to take up several pages worth of space with all the wonderful things the Dutch have produced.


I still have blissful memories of the great Vermeer exhibition at the Mauritshuis years ago.

Nice drawing... Is it yours?

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Aro


Nice drawing... Is it yours?

Alas, no.


It's from here:

http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Netherlands/Provincie_Zuid_Holland/The_Hague-457595/Things_To_Do-The_Hague-Mauritshuis-BR-1.html

Vermeer:

[Odin]

Originally posted by Nikolai
I'd like to be the leader of the Vikings then.(Vikings, not that horrible and unhistoric "Scandinavian" civ bullshiit... )

Nah, Scandinavian is better because it includes the post-viking ara as well. Also, the leader should be a famous Scandinavian monarch (like Gustavus Adolphus, St. Olaf, or Canute), not some obscure petty warlord like in Civ3.

[Zoid]

If there should be one late medieval scandinavian monarch it should be Gustav Vasa. He united the country and was the founder of modern Sweden. If it hadn´t been for Gustav Vasa Gustav II Adolf wouldn´t have had an empire to build.

[Datajack Franit]

GO Latvia!!

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Odin


Nah, Scandinavian is better because it includes the post-viking ara as well. Also, the leader should be a famous Scandinavian monarch (like Gustavus Adolphus, St. Olaf, or Canute), not some obscure petty warlord like in Civ3.

Except 'Scandinavian' is bland- Viking at least commemorates the waves of migration, conquest and the great trade routes that stretched from Baku to L'Anse aux Meadows and doesn't sound like stripped pine modular furniture.

Adolphus was king of Sweden- a Sweden which fought against Denmark in the Kalmar War. Useful as a leader in a Thirty Years' War scenario, but not for the Vikings.

With the term Viking you also get to include the kingdoms in Ireland and England and Man, the early duchy of Normandy, the settlements in Iceland and Greenland too, and Oleg in Kiev. It's a general term but it suits the wider arena of the Viking experience.

Go Vikings.

[Aro]

Originally posted by molly bloom


Alas, no.


It's from here:

http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Netherlands/Provincie_Zuid_Holland/The_Hague-457595/Things_To_Do-The_Hague-Mauritshuis-BR-1.html

Vermeer:

Yep.

Vermeer is one of my "Three Masters" (Rembrandt and Velazquez are the others ). I did a series of paintings based in famous masterpieces (pastiches), for a satiric magazine in Brazil called "Bundas" (what means "A$$" ), where the persons in the picture were replaced by caricatures (politicians, etc). I was just preparing myself to start a Vermeer when the magazine closed its doors. It was shame.

Yes, Thanks to the Dutch. Painters, businessmen, Science, my own country (Mauricio de Nassau!!)... We have a lot to be thankful for.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Aro


I did a series of paintings based in famous masterpieces (pastiches), for a satiric magazine in Brazil called "Bundas" (what means "A$$" ), where the persons in the picture were replaced by caricatures (politicians, etc). I was just preparing myself to start a Vermeer when the magazine closed its doors. It was shame.

I liked the card I saw which had Mrs Rothko cleaning the carpet- which was of course a large Rothko colour field painting....

If it is tempting to speculate about what Mrs Whistler might be seeing, the invitation to guess what she might be thinking has proved irresistible. The early reading of the sitter's character as typically Protestant and puritanical has paved the way for recent lampoons in which her prudishness is only skin deep. "Come on, sonny boy, this picture would be a lot more interesting if I posed in the nude!" she quips in a postcard of the 1980s, while a recent internet image, entitled Whistler's Overbearing Mother: Derangement in Grey and Black, shows a grim Mrs Whistler holding a whip. Other images show her smoking a cigarette, blowing a party horn, or stripping down to her lacy undies in a card that suggests: "It's your birthday. Don't just sit there! Show 'em stuff!" Her very immobility, it seems, is provocative; we feel compelled to help Whistler's Mother loosen up, as well as stand up and stretch her legs occasionally.

Such eminent personalities as Donald Duck, Bullwinkle the Moose, Wile E Coyote, the Animaniacs, the Muppets and Barbie have struck the upright pose made famous by Mrs Whistler. Although these are characters created for children, the superimposition of Whistler's Mother is clearly meant to appeal to adults, providing the kind of inside joke that children's programming employs to keep parents watching.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,965457,00.html

[Aro]

Originally posted by molly bloom



I liked the card I saw which had Mrs Rothko cleaning the carpet- which was of course a large Rothko colour field painting....



http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/featu...965457,00.html

Funny link.

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by Odin


Nah, Scandinavian is better because it includes the post-viking ara as well. Also, the leader should be a famous Scandinavian monarch (like Gustavus Adolphus, St. Olaf, or Canute), not some obscure petty warlord like in Civ3.

...says the guy who is from the US. You must understand that making a civ that is called "Scandinavian", a name of a region and totally wrong to use for a civ in every way, is not preferable. It's like making a civ called Western Europe really. Viking OTOH, may not represent more than one time period, but at least it represent a time period, contrary to this "Scandinavian" civ. Actually, if we should scrap the Viking name, I'd much rather have Sweden as a civ(me being a Norwegian that is saying a lot...), as Sweden was the power in the Nordic region that was most influential after the Viking age.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Nikolai
Actually, if we should scrap the Viking name, I'd much rather have Sweden as a civ(me being a Norwegian that is saying a lot...), as Sweden was the power in the Nordic region that was most influential after the Viking age.

Tell that to the Danes.

[Nikolai]

Oh, those two countries has been after each other for ages. It's time some independent and objective people tells them the truth(tm).

[Zoid]

Originally posted by GeoModder


Tell that to the Danes.

IKEA, Volvo, SAAB, Scania, Ericsson, The Nobel Prize, ABBA, a ****load of really good metal, etc, etc...

And the danes have what? Tuborg, Carlsberg and Kim Larsen?

You were saying...?

[Nikolai]

That's the spirit! Give them in!