Which Civs are In?

[TechWins]

Originally posted by Sn00py
personally I just want the game to be deeper, more serious and more realistic.

Remember Firaxis: Cartoons do not always = fun.

I can certainly agree with those sentiments.

[monolith94]

Ethiopians would be a good choice - a legitimate civilization, and in a very good location that would bring a lot of balance, geographically.

[Max Sinister]

Originally posted by Xorbon
To back-up what TechWins said, you could have 200+ civs in the game, while limiting the number of civs allowed in one game at a time. (If there was no limit, you know that people would try to pack 50 or more civs into a game, and then complain when their computer runs slow.)

The problem then with 200+ civs is that you'd end up facing a bunch of civs that you couldn't care less about. To fix that, toggle switches could be introduced to turn on/off civs so that they will or won't randomly appear in a game. (For example, if you don't want to see the Byzantines in the game, set their switch to 'off'.)

That being said, I don't want to advocate 200+ civs. ~40 civs would be just fine, IMO.

If there are only (much less than 200) civs at the same time allowed, then of course we could have as many civs in the game as we want, and maybe civs splitting and being assimilated.

I tried to make a list of 64 civs. It includes all the civs from Civ2, Civ3, PTW plus Inuit, Canadians (I wanted to fill spaces on the world map), Yankees / New Englanders, Southerners, Texans, Californians, Apaches, Cubans, Brazilians, Argentinians, Incas, Mayas, Ukrainians, Nigerians, Asante (sp?), Ethiopians, Congo, Massai, Siberians, Yakutians, Khwarezmians, Hebrews, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Bengals, Indonesians, Thai, Vietnamese, Pakistani, Tamils, Tibetians, Australians, Aborigines and Polynesians.

[Brent]

Wasn't Assyria in Civ2? And What is a Khwarezmian???

[Xorbon]

Originally posted by Brent
Wasn't Assyria in Civ2? And What is a Khwarezmian???

The Assyrians weren't in Civ 2. I think you could include them (along with the Arabs) if you did a bit of modding and removed one of the existing civs.

I haven't heard of the Khwarezmians before. Maybe they're a cult led by some guy named Khwarezmi.

[Peter Triggs]

I doubt they'd include any civilization whose name includes the substring "warezmi".

[Brent]

good point. I was beginning to think Khwarezmia was the cradle of Turywenism.

[Max Sinister]

Khwarezmia (not 100% sure about spelling) was a state that actually existed in Central Asia but was destroyed by the Mongols (13th century)

[Elda king]

Why to "Fill spaces on the world map"? The civ game never was passed on the world map, except scenarios.
64? Isn't it to much?

[Brent]

I'm not sure if I'd like the gameplay with any more than eight civs at once. I was just recently playing with 16, and didn't like it, but that could change next time I try it. Why so much focus on playing more at the same time? So what if it's more realistic? Just because I want more options, doesn't mean I want to use them all at once. It's even okay if there are some included to appease other people, but that I never use, as long as there are more of the ones I want than there are now. And even if you don't use a real world map, I still think it's a good idea to use civs from a geographically diverse selection. And I did enjoy using a real world map in Civ2.

[Brent]

The manual or strategy guide should give suggestions of which things to switch around to create civs that aren't directly included: graphics, units, traits, governments, religions. I guess I'd have to settle for coming up with city lists myself. Forexample:

The Fizzlanders are Mesoamerican. Their unique unit is the soda grenadier.l They are Fluffy and funny. Their favored government is utopia. They are monotheist.

The Amazons are mesoamerican. Their unique unit is the receptionist. They are tall and skinny. They are polytheist.

The Rogalanders are Germanic. Their unique unit is the violinist. They are tall and funny. Their favored government is constitutional monarchy. They are secular.

The Lofotenians are Germanic. Their unique unit is the fishboat. They are tall and stoic. Their favored government is constitutional monarchy. They are secular.

The Bernese are Germanic. Their unique unit is the yodler. They are tall and musical. Their favored government is Confederacy. They are secular.

The above are all in the game out of the box. To create the Cibolans, you use the Fizzlandic graphics, umm... the violinist... the tall and stoic traits, the utopian government, and the polytheist religion.

[molly bloom]

Re: Re: Which Civs are In?

Originally posted by TechWins


In fact, it was Spain who initiated the world into the "Modern age".

It was ? How, exactly ?

[Max Sinister]

I think he means the discovery of America and maybe the conquest of Granada. Though you might prefer to take the invention of the printing press as the real beginning of the modern age.

[GodSpawn]

Consider the following fact:

The USA came into existence in 1783 with the Treaty of Paris.
The UK came into existence in 1707 with the Act of Union.

The UK is older than the USA, yet the USA is in Civ IV, but not the UK...
Surely England should be replaced with the United Kingdom?

>I think he means the discovery of America

Chris C. was Portugese, although funded by Spain. But in any case, he certainly wasn't the first European to "discover" America!

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by GodSpawn
Chris C. was Portugese, although funded by Spain. But in any case, he certainly wasn't the first European to "discover" America!

1.) There is no proof Chrisopher Columbus was Portugese. In fact, there were some 2-3 persons who all can have been Colombus, he was a secretive man. And the theories on where he came from ranges from Italy to Portugal to Spain itself, noone really knows what's right.
2.) It's right that he was not the first one to discover it, but he surely was the one who set things in motion.