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    I have read a few of the threads in this forum, and as this is the second or third (closer to fifth actually) time I am seeing a list being built – I think I can observe some patterns.

    I am certain that in the following two years or so see a reiteration of one or more of these phenomena (actually, most of them, I believe..)

    1. List organizing efforts (how did I figure this one out? )
    2. Idea redundancy (Duplicate ideas/threads, ideas from the Civ III List making it into Civ IV list)
    3. At least one new project started as a spinoff by people involved in the List discussions

    As for the threads themselves, we will see a lot of...

    1. Threads descending into historical discussion
    2. Threads descending into historical discussion
    3. Random brainstorming it would take a supercomputer to sort out and make sense of

    (Forums, while ok for brainsorming, are pretty unsuited for concentrated discussion which would be better served by branching threads. Of course, efficiency is not the most important issue here, since it will take years for this game to be made, so the List is in no hurry)

    And may I also be free to suggest a few common types of "civ discussant" we shall see here:

    New enthusisast – this guy knows what it takes to make Civ IV a blast and won't spare bandwidth to let us all know.

    New enthusiast 2 – this guy knows the first guy is wrong and won't spare bandwidth to let him know.

    Moderator – will act if those two get out of control.

    Hard core believer in CtP - This guy will start his posts with "It already exists in CtP. And not only that, but also...". There is little chance any good will come out of these bitter old farts.

    Organizer – this guy will make futile attempts at keeping threads on topic, fleshing out interesting concepts, trying to fit them into a hierarchy of a sort...

    Firaxis employee – this guy (or a few of them) may appear at some point, but it is not very likely. If they post, everything they utter will be observed with utmost respect and a class of scholars may form just to interpret their words.

    FPS fan - This guy will keep trying to combine elements that don't fit. Can I play battles in Quake style? I say fine, but let's leave it for the patch

    Civ2MPer – This guy will lurk around, post arrogant comments and make bets with his fellows in Civ 2 MP forums about "who will succumb and play Civ IV first", which ofcourse will provoke endless laughter and witty remarks from the vets.

    Atheist – He will make casual appearances and irritate everyone by repeating the forum legend that Sid either never existed or is certainly not alive any more, let alone working on Civ IV.

    Yin26 – space intentionally left blank -


    ....add your own stuff...



    Ofcourse, in the process great fun will be had by all and many a story will be created to be remembered fondly after the game is built

    The list itself will be great, just like the last one was.

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    Hard core believer in CtP - This guy will start his posts with "It already exists in CtP. And not only that, but also...". There is little chance any good will come out of these bitter old farts.
    Not really. Alot of people voted for stacked combat, alot more than visit the CtP1/2 forums in fact.

    What about,

    Useless thread starter - may create threads about what type of people post in lists, clogging up the list forum and be slagged off by bitter old CtP fart.
    Call to Power 2: Apolyton Edition - download the latest version (12th June 2011)
    CtP2 AE Wiki & Modding Reference
    One way to compile the CtP2 Source Code.

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    • #3


      I was wondering should I put a disclaimer that I am joking, but now I am glad I didn't.

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      • #4
        Civ3 Perfectionist: Civ3 is absolutely perfect. The only thing they need to do is change the name to Civ4. And anyway, they'll fix the bugs in the next patch.

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        • #5
          [...reply intentionally left blank...]
          I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

          "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Peter Triggs
            Civ3 Perfectionist:
            Don't forgot his brother in spirit - civ Blind Loyalist
            ...Heaven forbid looking at what other civ-style games did do successfully as possible ways to improve the civ experience.
            Last edited by hexagonian; January 5, 2004, 13:51.
            Yes, let's be optimistic until we have reason to be otherwise...No, let's be pessimistic until we are forced to do otherwise...Maybe, let's be balanced until we are convinced to do otherwise. -- DrSpike, Skanky Burns, Shogun Gunner
            ...aisdhieort...dticcok...

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            • #7
              Hard core believer in CtP
              And also hard cord believer in MilitariZm.
              BTW it already exists in militariZm, and elso...

              Troll
              Troll2
              BTW, what's the difference between pair of trolls here?
              money sqrt evil;
              My literacy level are appalling.

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              • #8
                Civ3 Perfectionist: Civ3 is absolutely perfect. The only thing they need to do is change the name to Civ4. And anyway, they'll fix the bugs in the next patch.
                And of course Civ II-Lover: Hates everything Civ III... and I mean everything

                <----Me

                (although I'll admit that the Civ III expansions seem to have made it almost worth playing ... but since the graphics are the most atrocious I have ever seen... eh. I'll refrain from purchasing that piece of trash.)
                -->Visit CGN!
                -->"Production! More Production! Production creates Wealth! Production creates more Jobs!"-Wendell Willkie -1944

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by yin26
                  [...reply intentionally left blank...]
                  Amazing. Looking forward to reading your posts during the List, and after they make the game

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                  • #10
                    And in case anyone thought I was trolling, it was not so.

                    I fit in all the above categories except I haven't played CtP much, so the post is self irony if anything.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by VetLegion
                      I fit in all the above categories except I haven't played CtP much...
                      ...which makes it all too clear why your nastiest labeling of the types of posters is reserved for CTP players...
                      Yes, let's be optimistic until we have reason to be otherwise...No, let's be pessimistic until we are forced to do otherwise...Maybe, let's be balanced until we are convinced to do otherwise. -- DrSpike, Skanky Burns, Shogun Gunner
                      ...aisdhieort...dticcok...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by VetLegion


                        Amazing. Looking forward to reading your posts during the List, and after they make the game
                        Vet: Hey, thanks. Actually, my life has become leaps and bounds more complex since those days long ago with the Civ3 list. My plan is to let others do all the crazy work and I'll reap the rewards if the game is any good (which I didn't think Civ3 ended up being at all!). But if Civ4 *is* a quality product, I'll gladly be back here with old and new friends. Take care.
                        I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

                        "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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                        • #13
                          I may be in denial, but I can find my "category" in the first post...

                          I'm also not sure how much of your post is humor and how much is serious.

                          I am glad to have a discussion about the future of Civ4 for many reasons. It's interesting to hear other people's thought processes and ideas - even if I don't agree with them.

                          /wasting bandwidth off

                          P.S. How cool is it that yin26 is tracking this forum. You were the man for that Civ3 list, yin!
                          Haven't been here for ages....

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                          • #14
                            Oh by the way VetLegion, about your comparing civ games site- could you perhaps please link to the thread you started on apolyton in the thread so that people can continue to comment on it an contribute- the OT thread has slipped a bit from its front page position

                            And also- what about my contributions to your list? did you not catch them in the old thread?

                            It doesn't really matter if you ignored them... but if you missed them- then I'm just saying that so you know
                            -->Visit CGN!
                            -->"Production! More Production! Production creates Wealth! Production creates more Jobs!"-Wendell Willkie -1944

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                            • #15
                              Vet Legion.

                              Great thread!

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