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    What would you ameliorate first?

    If there were only FIVE things to be improved in Civ3, what would it be? Of course, don't answer "combat system, economic system, diplomacy, ressource model and interface"! I want specific elements. You can explain why if you wish.


    For me, it would be:
    1- Units stacked = stronger than all separated (like real wars: a great proportion of tactics/strategies come from this simple aspect. Just look napoleonic strategies!!)

    2- REAL colonies, like colonies worked in history: influence and vampiric economy

    3- Influence that can be traded (like in GalCiv)

    4- A UN or else that works like GalCiv's United Planets (that votes laws that change something)

    5- Multi-threaded AI (like GalCiv... again)
    Last edited by Trifna; June 27, 2003, 13:34.
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    combat system, economic system, diplomacy, ressource model and interface.
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    • #3
      I think the unit system is in severe need of looking-at. Even Call to Power with its stacks requires you to create hundreds of individual units and then damage your eyesight by clicking on the little boxes to form them into armies.
      Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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      • #4
        ameliorate Who uses that word?! Dude, are you one of those people who has this one obscure word that they know and they try to fit that word into every conversation?

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        • #5
          Maybe, who knows... and it wouldn't change anyone's life......

          Hey, not everyone has English as a first language. Went in Merriam Webster, I'll just edit for "improve"...
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          • #6
            1: Non-broken Tech tree. It should be possible for a tech in one age to lead to only some of the techs in the next age. For example, Magnetism and Theory of Gravity shouldn't lead to Nationalism and Medicine.

            2: A means of reversing Global Warming. It would take an incredibly large worker effort, and the right technology, but I think it should hopefully be possible to turn deserts into plains and plains into Grassland.

            3: A means of having a strategy resource regenerate, or perhaps have a chance of rising up into the open with the same probability that it has for suddenly disappearing.

            4: The ability to improve water squares (like with fisheries) and eventually colonize the oceans, even if at the very end of the tech tree.

            5:The ability to stack units.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by TimeTraveler
              1: Non-broken Tech tree. It should be possible for a tech in one age to lead to only some of the techs in the next age. For example, Magnetism and Theory of Gravity shouldn't lead to Nationalism and Medicine.

              2: A means of reversing Global Warming. It would take an incredibly large worker effort, and the right technology, but I think it should hopefully be possible to turn deserts into plains and plains into Grassland.

              3: A means of having a strategy resource regenerate, or perhaps have a chance of rising up into the open with the same probability that it has for suddenly disappearing.

              4: The ability to improve water squares (like with fisheries) and eventually colonize the oceans, even if at the very end of the tech tree.

              5:The ability to stack units.
              hi ,

              have you seen ptw allready , ......

              have a nice day
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Feephi
                ameliorate Who uses that word?! Dude, are you one of those people who has this one obscure word that they know and they try to fit that word into every conversation?
                Very often used in French for example..
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                I would love to see a more dynamic game, even with different tech trees each game (not random, just a couple of small changes that will force you to adapt. These would become only apparant the moment you enter the next age)

                Expansion ( more a Ceasar type of way)
                Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TimeTraveler
                  2: A means of reversing Global Warming. It would take an incredibly large worker effort, and the right technology, but I think it should hopefully be possible to turn deserts into plains and plains into Grassland.
                  i don't have Civ III, but i assume this is saying that there is no engineer type unit like in Civ II (which can do exactly that)?
                  Insert witty phrase here

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                  • #10
                    Funny story. I bought Civ3 but when I got home I discovered that my Windows partition no longer boots. I have yet to gather up the motivation to fix this minor problem.
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                    • #11
                      Can someone explain me how a thread can get out of subject that much in so little posts?...
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                      • #12
                        I could but it wouldn't be on topic.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by panag


                          hi ,

                          have you seen ptw allready , ......

                          have a nice day
                          No, I haven't. I still play the normal Civ3.

                          Originally posted by SCG


                          i don't have Civ III, but i assume this is saying that there is no engineer type unit like in Civ II (which can do exactly that)?
                          That's right. You never get any terrain improvement unit more advanced than the Worker, which is never able to undo the damage of Global Warming.
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                          • #14
                            Do nukes still generate pollution rather than fallout?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by geeslaka
                              Do nukes still generate pollution rather than fallout?
                              hi ,

                              yes , lets hope you can have effects like " one citizens has died in city X , so far away from impact B ( icbm from civ Z ) due to radioactive fallout , .....

                              Firaxis , ......

                              have a nice day
                              - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                              - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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