C-evo, the end of ICS

[Father Beast]

I discovered this game at

c-evo.org

It provides a civ2-like experience with a few twists, and is pretty fun.
PLUS, like the title says, it gets rid of ICS in the most obvious way, by making the city square no longer free. A seetler costs 2 pop, and starts a city with 2 pop - one of which works the city square!

That's right, you still have to feed your city square workers, you have to worry about keeping them happy, and they're not for free.

the rules about food production have been tweaked a bit to allow for growth, like food prod over 3 in a tile gets reduced by 1 under despotism, instead of over 2. other resources under desp get reduced over 2.

I hope this is the right forum, I don't know where else to put it....

[Felch]

It looks cool. I just couldn't find the way to update my units. I understand it's not automatic, but I couldn't build anything except militia and settlers.

[2manyusernames]

As per the manual, most units are not pre-designed. To build most units you must first research "Military Research" then you can go to a screen where you can design your units.

[Rasbelin]

/me summons St.Leo.

He's the right person to talk about it.

[St Leo]

I haven't played the recent version much, though I've received requests to update the tribes that I designed for the 0.6.x release series.

Of course, if I felt like playing a normal civ game, I'd be playing cEvo. The fact that standard cEvo is superior to standard Civ2 is very obvious.

I am perfectly willing to answer any questions that you might have.

[Jamski]

There's a game that's superior to Civ2???
There's a Civ game that's superior to Civ2???

This I have to play. Someone give me a link - quick

-Jam

[2manyusernames]

Here you go:

http://c-evo.org/

Have fun!

[Father Beast]

I just finished one of my first games, and I'm thinking of trying it again, and maybe formulating a "three city challenge. a standard OCC is impossible, since you need a city with each of the three rare resources. perhaps you can build your first city somewhere, and when you find sites with the resources, you can build cities where they exist and disband your first city if it's not on one.

I learned pretty quick that using caravans in the old fashion is difficult since it takes 2 shields to support a caravan. Hence the Statue of Liberty (no support for units unmoving in cities) is essential. The Eiffel Tower ( no expiration on wonders) is invaluable for wonder building civs also.

I did have one thing I don't understand. I am a bit put off by having to research units as if they were techs, so I do it not often. somewhere I made a unit for defense and later on discovered a message saying "this unit may only travel on roads and railroads". I don't remember putting that into the design, and that wasn't part of an earlier units restrictions. I don't know what happened.

[St Leo]

somewhere I made a unit for defense and later on discovered a message saying "this unit may only travel on roads and railroads".

That's what "heavyweight" means in unit design.

[Father Beast]

Originally posted by St Leo
somewhere I made a unit for defense and later on discovered a message saying "this unit may only travel on roads and railroads".

That's what "heavyweight" means in unit design.

I didn't think I had made it heavyweight when I designed it. I'll have to go back and check...

[Rubin]

hmm, this looks VERY promising! And it even fits a single 1.44 disc!!

[Father Beast]

OK, I can't go back and check because I started that map over and erased the previous game.

I'm having trouble hunting down another bug. it seems like one of my mines up and disappeared on me, I'll have to go through turn by turn and see if I can see it happen.

but problems aside, this piece of Freeware may be the best version of civ yet made. I just had a game where I built lots of armies of slaves to improve the terrain (AOS's are kind of the workers of civ-evo. still take 2 pop and just as many shields to build, but can't found cities and doesn't take food to support). I had to build the pyramids to get them, and was worried when industialization was coming up, which would obsolete the pyramids and free all my slaves. I used a bunch of freight to rush build the eiffel tower (no obsolescence), and spent some money to finish building it the same turn I discovered industialization. Whew!

Freight are difficult to stockpile, as the require 2 shields support each, but I got around that by building the Statue of Liberty, which makes unmoved units in cities require no support. the I could stockpile them to my heart's content. money in the bank.

I wonder If somebody can make an effective 3 city strategy for this game. would be impressive.

[Pave]

C-evo is the best non-sid-civ civ game I tried.

[Pave]

I mean C-evo is the best non-commorcal civ game I tried, CtP1 is the best non-sid civ-game

[sir_schwick]

I'm not a big fan of the 'forum' on the C-Evo site. Anywhere else have a better forum?

[robinp]

There is a much better forum set aside for C-evo on civilization.wikia.com - and a couple of dozen pages about strategy and tactics.

The game is still under development but is excellent even now.

[robinp]

Update - I've played a bit (or a lot) of C-evo most days in the last 8 months. It is seriously addictive.

My article about the design of ground units is currently featured on the front page of the Civilization Wikia. I refer to it during play. I hope other players do.