Nice troll. Haven't seen this done before.
Questions for creationists
This is a thread where evolutionists can post questions for creationists. We will see how many of them reply with satisfactory answers.
Here's a good one: why do humans have the appendix (vermiform appendix)?
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Damned if I knowHere's a good one: why do humans have the appendix (vermiform appendix)?
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This can't be a troll (flame-bait) If I actually want some honest answers, such as "I don't know."
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Here's a good one: why do humans have the appendix (vermiform appendix)?
Because......
and start with that evolutionary "It used to be a second ass" stuff.
(nice troll btw
I'm not an creationist, but I am a Christian. I'll give it a shot.
Humans have an apendix (as well as tonsils) because it made eating easier. When Eve ate the apple, and Adam as well, God punished them by making the two not work, so that they would suffer internally as well as externally for eating the Forbidden Fruit.
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Because once upon a time there where Trolls and Humans, with trolls eating grass. The troll's decided they'ed had enough of the persecution by the humans, and decided to act like them, and kill them off. Therefore we are all Troll's and humans don't have an appendix. We just think we are humans.
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Did you make this up, or this part of actual Judeo-Christian-Islamic mythology?Humans have an apendix (as well as tonsils) because it made eating easier. When Eve ate the apple, and Adam as well, God punished them by making the two not work, so that they would suffer internally as well as externally for eating the Forbidden Fruit.
What about the coccyx or wisdom teeth?
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Please, Ramo, you should know better than that. It's pretty obvious that EF is pulling theology out of his... verniform appendix.Originally posted by Ramo
Did you make this up, or this part of actual Judeo-Christian-Islamic mythology?
What about the coccyx or wisdom teeth?
Of course he made it up
Just look at FG
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How about nails? Or nipples on men. Or fossils.
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Oh, I made it up...there is actually nothing in the Bible (that I have found) to explain these.
However, that seems to be the logical (note: logical by creationist standards) explainations.
Oh, also, to answer more questions:
Dino's could have existed because, though God made the world in 7 days, it never said how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden.
Pangea was during the day that God made the land, then seperated it to create the continents.
Also, Adam and Eve had far more children then just Caine and Abel. I like to use Iceland as an example for a perfectly homogeneous population with few if any defects. Its not impossible (especially if God has a hand in it) to not have defects even though there is incest.
Plus, it was not the animals who were evil, but the people. The reason God had Noah bring two of each animal aboard was not to save the good ones, but to prevent species extinction, due to the flood. There's no such thing as an "evil fish." Well, at least not due to the flood.
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Well, it's somewhat plausible that it says in the OT that God gave Adam and Eve a pestilence or somesuch to prevent them from eating as well.
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
Hell, the only thing I wanna know is how did the fossils get there. Either
a. The Bible is wrong and modern evolutionary theories are right (as far as our current understanding goes, though there is still plenty to learn.)
b. The Bible is right and God is a prime bastard for purposely deceiving his creations by planting false evidence that suggests a history that never happened.
Being a believer in God, I gotta go with A. If the answer is B, well, then, screw him.
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It never says anything about length of time. Therefore, the dinosaurs and other such animals had pleanty of time to die.Dino's could have existed because, though God made the world in 7 days, it never said how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden.
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Ahhhh. So they lived in the Garden for 60+ million years. After that, humanity started measuring their lifespans in decades. Makes perfect sense to me.
Oh, and John, there is another option.
Think of God (I can't believe I'm saying this) as Microsoft. We're version whatever of His plan. Evolution is His way of bringing out new versions, updating, and making Patches. I personally come from the school of thought that says God is responsible for Evolution. (And there is even a school of thought which says that God is the product of evolution.)
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Chardin?
'Scuse? Know how long Noah, Abraham, and Moses lived? In the Garden, Adam and Eve were in paradise. No disease, no pestilence, not even heartburn. They were immortal. God created Adam as His prime "trophy", and Eve as Adam's companion. When they ate the Forbidden Fruit, God punished them by making them susceptible to all of these, and threw them out of the Garden, for they had disobeyed. If you think about it in a religious sense, it DOES make sense.Originally posted by JohnT
Ahhhh. So they lived in the Garden for 60+ million years. After that, humanity started measuring their lifespans in decades. Makes perfect sense to me.
"I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
^ The Poly equivalent of:
"I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite
*sigh*
The sad thing is that people continue to be baited by ridiculous threads.
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I made this thread less troll-like and gave it a purpose.Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
*sigh*
The sad thing is that people continue to be baited by ridiculous threads.
Oh, and yes John, Chardin, or at least Chardin-like.
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well according to the Bible
before the flood man measured his days in 100s of years (like 900)
and of course, before sin there was no death of mankind at all (according to the Bible)
then after the flood, lifespan quickly decreased so that the ancient were 80 (and the really famously long lived were 120)
(note the loss of lifespan is linked by some scholars to generations away from the Tree/ the effects of sin)
so according to the Bible, living 60+ million years pre eating of the fruit is no trouble at all
Jon Miller
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Wanna try that again?Originally posted by Jon Miller
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"I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
^ The Poly equivalent of:
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Why didn't Adam and Eve become snacks for the velociraptors roaming around the Garden?In the Garden, Adam and Eve were in paradise. No disease, no pestilence, not even heartburn.
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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God didn't put anything in the Garden that would *physically* harm them. All animals in the Garden were also tame.Originally posted by Ramo
Why didn't Adam and Eve become snacks for the velociraptors roaming around the Garden?
And remember, the Serpent talked, and was in actuality Lucifer.
Take THAT, sarcasm!
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Actually, Jon, I knew that stuff too.
EF, I can't think "religiously." I don't know how to describe my thoughts ("rational arrogance" comes to mind - after all, I always think I'm right and make perfect sense.
I started before you postedOriginally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Wanna try that again?
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See, I guess my understanding is that Man in the garden is the same state as Man in heaven will be (I think that this is an obvious conclusion (but not the only possible) from the Bible).Originally posted by JohnT
Actually, Jon, I knew that stuff too.
EF, I can't think "religiously." I don't know how to describe my thoughts ("rational arrogance" comes to mind - after all, I always think I'm right and make perfect sense.
Therefore, Man would not die in the Garden.
So, if you think that Man would die pre sin, I would consider that a much bigger issue then any creationism.
BTW, Creationism does not maintain that God created the Universe at any recent time.
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If there are millions of stars and millions of inhabited planets and God had to die a horrible death on each of them to save the sentient beings that would border on fetish. It would make God a very weird character indeed.
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Well, damn. My dog will die pre-sin. Babies die pre-sin. I don't think it takes a radical leap of faith or logic to think that people can die before they sin.Originally posted by Jon Miller
See, I guess my understanding is that Man in the garden is the same state as Man in heaven will be (I think that this is an obvious conclusion (but not the only possible) from the Bible).
Therefore, Man would not die in the Garden.
So, if you think that Man would die pre sin, I would consider that a much bigger issue then any creationism.
BTW, Creationism does not maintain that God created the Universe at any recent time.
Jon Miller
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