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    a little graphic change i made to the mines

    I'v made a little change to the mine graphics in the game.
    i cut off the little wagon in front of the mine, and made the mine a bit greener, and brighter, so it will fit more naturally into the background.
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    original mines
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    Looks a bit cleaner on the map now.

    It took a moment to realize that those little buildings were mines and not some sort of settlement. Could you replace those mines with some clear abstract symbol for mining instead?

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    Ahhh yes ... thank you ... the original mine graphics are annoying only because the AI clear cuts forest and build's mines everywhere.

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    I couldn't help thinking the original ones look like skulls.
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    yeah, a simple abstract marking would be nice.

    Like a small pickaxe

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    Damn AI, why does it turn the map so ugly?
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    sorry....stupid double post
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    I think you work is great.

    I do NOT think that making little icons to repersent mines is a good idea. What's the point in that? Is it not obvious enough already ??

    Let me guess, the next step will be to replace all the units with little white boxes in which will be written their stats, right? GIVE ME A BREAK !!! Aesthetics are one thing that makes Civ 3 great, and if the game isn't visually stimulating, its missing something - nothing big, but lets keep the graphics how they intended it.

    Lets not forget that the game has been out for a little under a month now, and Sid's team have been playtesting it for months before the release - lets give them some credit ! (this last paragraph should also be read by all those creators who are constantly changing the game to make it 'work better' ... i dunno, but the people at Firaxis have been making the game for years now and although i think some things need to be tweaked, lets give them time guys ... THEY DESERVE OUR THANKS AND RESPECT !)

    Anybody agree with me ??

    Thats my rant for today
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    Hey no one is forcing you to use this mod :P

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    Originally posted by ThaddeusAlexander
    I think you work is great.

    I do NOT think that making little icons to repersent mines is a good idea. What's the point in that? Is it not obvious enough already ??

    Let me guess, the next step will be to replace all the units with little white boxes in which will be written their stats, right? GIVE ME A BREAK !!! Aesthetics are one thing that makes Civ 3 great, and if the game isn't visually stimulating, its missing something - nothing big, but lets keep the graphics how they intended it.

    Lets not forget that the game has been out for a little under a month now, and Sid's team have been playtesting it for months before the release - lets give them some credit ! (this last paragraph should also be read by all those creators who are constantly changing the game to make it 'work better' ... i dunno, but the people at Firaxis have been making the game for years now and although i think some things need to be tweaked, lets give them time guys ... THEY DESERVE OUR THANKS AND RESPECT !)

    Anybody agree with me ??

    Thats my rant for today
    Good Gaming everyone
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    ~Alex
    I demand you stop making maps!

    They at Firaxis have been working months and investing thousands of dollars in the two maps they shipped the game with and game is less than one month at the shops.


    Good pic for the mines. Im gonna use it with Snoopy's terain mod.
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    This change should really make the map less crowded.
    However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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    Angry

    Originally posted by Bakunine


    I demand you stop making maps!

    They at Firaxis have been working months and investing thousands of dollars in the two maps they shipped the game with and game is less than one month at the shops.


    Good pic for the mines. Im gonna use it with Snoopy's terain mod.
    A-Ha! Different situation !!

    With the game, they also shipped a little program known as the EDITOR thus giving people permission to make maps! Besides, I'm not altering anything gameplay oriented, just making maps.

    And what I'm specifically fighting here is the icons instead of mines - i have no problem with the work this guy did on changing the look of the mines, i just don't want people to go insane and iconize everything! Grrr

    So you don't agree with me? You'd like the little white boxes with numbers in it? heck they do the same thing, right????

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    P.S Does nobody agree with me ? Does nobody want to give Sid's team respect? oh well ...

    Again, I have your mines downloaded and i'm using them - they fit better now, thanks !

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    Does nobody agree with me ? Does nobody want to give Sid's team respect? oh well ...
    Well i don't think iconizing stuff is showing disrespect althought i wouldn't iconize it. Could make smaller,tiny mines or whatever but iconize not.

    I'm not altering anything gameplay oriented

    That´s why i only use graphicall mods or small graphic changes. They do not alter gameplay.

    Anyway good work you made on those maps.

    Good gaming to you too.
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    Originally posted by Bakunine
    I'm not altering anything gameplay oriented

    That´s why i only use graphicall mods or small graphic changes. They do not alter gameplay.

    Anyway good work you made on those maps.

    Good gaming to you too.
    I don't mind small graphic changes ... sn00py's raised land is great (in my opinion), and these mines are as well. Evan's mood badges are a good idea too, in my mind. But I just don't like the idea of totally disbanding something in place of an Icon, and I know that nobody has yet done that - but people on this thread are/were talking about it so i just had to say something.

    Graphic changes are taste-oriented, and I don't expect the Civ creation and art team to be able to appease everyone. They did their best, and some people (including myself) like pretty much everything ... but small changes that I like that people have taken the time and effort to create, I download and use.

    You can argue opinions all you want, but defending them is impossible

    But i'm still against all these major mods people are coming out with ... personally, i can wait for the patch that is supposedly coming out next week (keep your fingers crossed! )

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    The two maps that came with the game where totally pants. Actually, i havnt really looked at the standard size one but the huge map of earth is rubbish - a very poor representation.

    Lucky for him this isnt a soviet world or he'd be surely branded enemy of the people and exiled to siberia for that

    By the way, firaxis map designer - perhaps its not too late to redeem yourself - maybe if you actually design a decent map you will have a clear consciensce again!

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