Seems a little overboard to me.

...so I just bought an AR15 from Cabela's, and this is the first rifle I've ever purchased.
The manual mentions a "break in " period, where you fire a single shot and clean the bore 25 times, and then fire ten shots and clean the bore 18 times. Is this normal for rifles, and how important is it? Also there is a lot of recommened regular maintenance, probably more than on any item since that time I tried to learn the trumpet.
Anybody else get one of these things?
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Seems a little overboard to me.
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I'd do it as they must have a reason though I've never heard of anything like it before.
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Gun maintenance is not only an essential part of gun ownership but also one of the key joys of it.
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BTW which maker did you go with for the AR15 and which accessories did you get to go with it?
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I got a used Del Ton (looks like this), and it's tons of fun.
My understanding of the break in is that it's not that big of a deal. There might be some debris in the barrel from manufacturing, but that'll be cleared out in the normal business of shooting and cleaning. As far as maintenance goes, clean it regularly and it should be fine. Regularly might be every time you go shooting, or it might be after every few hundred rounds, or whatever. The ammunition you use, and how you store the rifle have a lot to do with that. Make sure not to leave too much oil, since that can collect dust while its being stored. And youtube is an awesome source of info for any cleaning questions you might have.
What brand did you get?
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Can't get AR-15s in New York![]()
I come from the land of the ice and snow
From the rust belt where industry won't go

I got a DPMS A3, looks like this.
Last night I learned how to lock the chamber open for inspection!![]()
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You have a short dick ?
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Why yes, want to see?
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"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

Your head is saying no but your smile is saying YES.![]()
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Interesting choice in stock butts. Any reason you picked that stock instead of the collapsible M4 stock?
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It's because every time you clean it you set it upright with the butt resting on your chaier inbetween your thighs, then you get a rag and soak it in oil, and then ....you stroke it with the oiled clothe. You stroke it from top to bottom, then back to the top and stroke downwards, then back to the top ...... That's it, You're getting a feel for it now aren't you. Yes, it's beginning to feel almost like it's part of you isn't it? Oh, yeah baby, ummmmmm. faster now Faster! Faster! Oh, Oh,OH,OH YEAH BABY! FIRE IT, FIRE IT, FIRE IT25 TIMESOh, yeah, so sweet ohhhhh yyyeeaahhhhh....Clean it some more, you know you want to. Grab the rag, slather the oil. Both hands now you got it baby, you can do it again,Come on, harder, faster, harder, fasterharder, faster,HARDER, FASTEROH BANGITTY, BANGITTY 18 TIMES BANGITTY!!! ahhhh...wwwhhhheeeeewwwwwwwwwwww......... Man, you STILL got it. And you ain't nevah, evah, evah gonna let your sweet steel angel outta your site.
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Doc gets what it's all about.
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I thought about making the obvious masturbation joke myself. Glad I didn't. Doc's version was so much better than mine would have been.
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"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.

"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer

OIAW

The only really cheesy thing is that in California it is illegal to own an AR-15 magazine larger than 10 rounds unless it was manufactured after Jan 1, 2000. Believe it or not it's actually a felony to own the standard 30 round magazine for it though I understand there are grey areas which people can use to get around it (namely, you can buy "repair kits" which are 30 round magazines but if you assemble the complete "repair kit" then you're guilty of a felony).
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In MD the mags over 20 rounds are illegal to buy, sell, transfer, or manufacture, but they're okay to own. Frankly I prefer the 20 round magazines, since they're more level with the grip.
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I wonder if Illinois would let me own a gun. I can finally answer "no" to the "have you been in a looney bin in the last 5 years" question.

oh and TMM, you need a rail and lots of accessories to make it look more tactical

I want a Denel NTW-20.

3 separate posts within 1 minute. Maybe you should consider checking back in. You could be roomies with KH.![]()
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...up-crime-down/MILLER: Gun ownership up, crime down
FBI violent-crime rates show safer nation with more gun owners
Gun-control advocates are noticeably silent when crime rates decline. Their multimillion-dollar lobbying efforts are designed to manufacture mass anxiety that every gun owner is a potential killer. The statistics show otherwise.
Last week, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announced that violent crime decreased 4 percent in 2011. The number of murders, rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults all went down, continuing a pattern.
“This is not a one-year anomaly, but a steady decline in the FBI’s violent-crime rates,” said Andrew Arulanandam, spokesman for the National Rifle Association. “It would be disingenuous for anyone to not credit increased self-defense laws to account for this decline.”
Mr. Arulanandam pointed out that only a handful of states had concealed-carry programs 25 years ago, when the violent-crime rate peaked. Today, 41 states either allow carrying without a permit or have “shall issue” laws that make it easy for just about any noncriminal to get a permit. Illinois and Washington, D.C., are the only places that refuse to recognize the right to bear arms. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence did not respond to requests for comment.
If the gun grabbers were right, we’d be in the middle of a crime wave, considering how many guns are on the streets. “Firearms sales have increased substantially since right after the 2008 election,” said Bill Brassard, spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), which represents the $4 billion firearms and ammunition industry. “There was a leveling off in 2010, but now we’re seeing a surge again.”
The FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) serves as one of the best indicators of gun sales because it counts each time someone buys a gun. Checks hit an all-time high of 16.5 million last year. In the first five months of this year, the numbers have gone up 10 percent over the same period last year as Americans rush to the gun store in case President Obama decides to exercise “more flexibility” in restricting guns in a second term.
Gun manufacturing is the one private-sector industry “doing fine” on Mr. Obama’s watch. Sturm, Ruger & Co. sold 1 million firearms in the first quarter of 2012 - an amazing 50 percent increase from the first quarter of 2011. The jump was so steep that the company stopped accepting orders from March to May to catch up with demand for its products.
Last month, Smith & Wesson announced a firearm-order backlog of approximately $439 million by the end of April, up 135 percent from the same quarter in 2011. Sales in that period were up 28 percent from 2011 and 14 percent over its own predictions to investors. NSSF estimates the industry is responsible for approximately 180,000 jobs and has an annual impact on the U.S. economy of $28 billion.
Mr. Obama could honestly take credit for this jobs program, economic boost and the reduction in violent crime that has followed the spike in gun ownership on his watch. Instead, he’s silent about his greatest positive accomplishment.
Emily Miller is a senior editor for the Opinion pages at The Washington Times.
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Personally I think it's video games that have lowered crime. Guns are awesome in their own right.
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The reality is the reason crime keeps going down has very little to do with guns and a whole hell of a lot to do with the aging of the population. Sorry, but 70 year olds do a whole hell of a lot fewer snatch and grabs or forcible rapes than 20 year olds. The older the population average gets the fewer violent crimes there are; that's an almost direct cause and effect where as gun ownership is all over the place with very weak correlation in a lot if not most cases.
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