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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    Well since the Black Panther stuff is being posted like a week late, I guess you all don't know that Spike Lee re-tweeted Zimmerman's home address...
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    High school Trayvon Martin protestors ransack a Walgreens:

    http://www.local10.com/news/Police-T...z/-/index.html

    I expected more ransacking. They kind of flash mobbed the place and stole ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyHorse View Post
    Thank God for celebrities; how else would our justice system work?
    Another option and not better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    High school Trayvon Martin protestors ransack a Walgreens:

    http://www.local10.com/news/Police-T...z/-/index.html

    I expected more ransacking. They kind of flash mobbed the place and stole ****.
    Definitely not the creme de la creme of the american high school students, at least in terms of intelligence
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    Some of the students dropped their IDs on the way out of the store, police said, so investigators have an idea of who was inside. ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by regexcellent View Post
    I doubt politics will be too involved in his actual trial...
    So pushing the trial to appease the mob is okay?

    Apparently your system can't be trusted by your citizens to do what it needs to do. See my original point.
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    As to the fairness of the inevitable trial - I remember OJ and saw what happens to your jury system when race enters the discussion (as it usually does with you guys).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wezil View Post
    So pushing the trial to appease the mob is okay?

    Apparently your system can't be trusted by your citizens to do what it needs to do. See my original point.
    Whether there is a trial has nothing to do with what a bunch of stupid ****s think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wezil View Post
    As to the fairness of the inevitable trial - I remember OJ and saw what happens to your jury system when race enters the discussion (as it usually does with you guys).
    if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gribbler View Post
    Whether there is a trial has nothing to do with what a bunch of stupid ****s think.
    Really?

    Do you think he will be tried?

    If yes - Do you think he would have been tried without all the media attention?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wezil View Post
    Really?

    Do you think he will be tried?

    If yes - Do you think he would have been tried without all the media attention?
    I don't have the necessary knowledge to answer those questions. Neither do you, you prejudiced ****tard.

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    Prejudiced ****tard?

    WTF?
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    When did you go Complete *******?
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    There you go folks, the race card at play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wezil View Post
    When did you go Complete *******?
    When did you start making unfounded criticisms of the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wezil View Post
    There you go folks, the race card at play.
    Don't think we haven't noticed your WHITE ferret
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    If the system works the police will investigate and the DA will determine if there is a reasonable prospect of securing a conviction based upon the evidence they have and proceed to trial if there is. In this case the people with the evidence seem to believe that reasonable prospect doesn't exist.

    The high profile of this case has now made it so charges are inevitable. Even the Feds are getting involved to see if they can go after him on something. Do you think this would have happened were this not front page news? Do they get involved in every shooting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wezil View Post
    So pushing the trial to appease the mob is okay?

    Apparently your system can't be trusted by your citizens to do what it needs to do. See my original point.
    A trial might save Zimmerman's life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeson View Post
    Don't think we haven't noticed your WHITE ferret
    It's a dead giveaway.

    I was going to post my KKK memorabilia collection but I couldn't fit it all into the frame.
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    I'm about 70-30 that its murder, but I do think Zimmerman should have been arrested by now.
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    Remember that we don't have access to all the evidence that the police do. Some of the stuff that's come out recently lends some credence to the vigilante's story (which is also different than some people were assuming). Further, we have a number of witnesses apparently changing their story when talking to the press (after the story began making national headlines).

    The longer we go without an arrest the more likely it is that the case is difficult to make given the sum total of evidence police and prosecutors have.
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    I think I'm swayed because the Lead Investigator suggested charging Zimmerman with manslaughter on the evening of the incident but was overruled by the State Attorney's Office. I admit I may be biased because I've dealt with Florida's State Attorney's Office in the past and found them to be completely incompetent.
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    I have never dealt with Florida police or Florida prosecutors, thankfully...
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    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/3203...c-shooting.htm

    George Zimmerman is a registered Democrat.

    Zimmerman's state voter registration document shows that the 28-year-old registered as a Democrat in Seminole County, Fla., in 2002. Zimmerman apparently went on to identify himself as a Hispanic American, according to the document, which was released Tuesday by the Washington Free Beacon.

    The revelations on the voter form confound the message pushed by some observers on the left, who contend that Zimmerman was motivated by right-wing attitudes and the actions of conservatives:

    "[Republican politicians] reinforce and validate old stereotypes that associate the poor and welfare as criminal behavior with African-Americans and people of color, calling us lazy, undeserving recipients of public assistance. In the case of Trayvon, those festering stereotypes had lethal consequences," MSNBC political analyst and Democratic fundraiser Karen Finney has said, condensing many of the left's argument about how the right has contributed to the mindset that led to Trayvon Martin's death.
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    In 2002 Zimmerman would have been 18 years old. A lot can change in 10 years, partricularily in the transition from teen to adult.

    Then again remember Bruce Ivins, the guy involved in the anthrax attacks? We've been told that he was a Democrat, even though the only politicians to receive anthrax letters were Democrats and a bunch of letters he wrote to local newspapers show that he strongly praised the Republican congressional victories in 2002 and 2004.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/3203...c-shooting.htm

    George Zimmerman is a registered Democrat.

    ...and?

    Seriously, what's the point of this post?
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    I wonder if Zimmerman ever identified himself as a Neighborhood watch person. If not and I was walking home and some dude with a gun came running at me and harrasing me, I might beat the hell out of him if I thought I wouldn't get shot.

    Maybe Trayvon thought that he was acting in self defense.
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    Even if a dude identified himself as a neighborhood watch person then if he was waving a gun around and harassing me my first thought wouldn't be "clearly I should respect this person's authority," it would be "I wonder how I can avoid getting shot by this lunatic."
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    Quote Originally Posted by loinburger View Post
    Even if a dude identified himself as a neighborhood watch person then if he was waving a gun around and harassing me my first thought wouldn't be "clearly I should respect this person's authority," it would be "I wonder how I can avoid getting shot by this lunatic."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    Well since the Black Panther stuff is being posted like a week late, I guess you all don't know that Spike Lee re-tweeted Zimmerman's home address...
    Just heard he tweeted the wrong address.

    Lady who lives there forced to move out.

    Ol' Spike's gonna get smacked.
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    Elderly Couple In Fear Over Spike Lee Tweet
    Star erroneously linked Floridians to man who killed Trayvon Martin

    MARCH 27--With Twitter and Facebook continuing to explode with posts purporting to contain the address of George Zimmerman, property records and interviews reveal that the home is actually the longtime residence of a married Florida couple, both in their 70s, who have no connection to the man who killed Trayvon Martin and are now living in fear due to erroneous reports about their connection to the shooter.

    The mass dissemination of the address on Edgewater Circle in Sanford--the Florida city where Martin was shot to death last month--took flight last Friday when director Spike Lee retweeted a tweet containing Zimmerman’s purported address to his 240,000 followers.

    The original tweet was sent to Lee (and numerous other celebrities like Will Smith, 50 Cent, and LeBron James) last Friday afternoon by Marcus Davonne Higgins, a 33-year-old Los Angeles man who uses the online handle “maccapone.” Higgins included the direction, “EVERYBODY REPOST THIS.”

    Higgins, pictured at right, first began disseminating the Sanford address to his Twitter followers last Wednesday, including the claim that Zimmerman “Like the fat punk he is, he still lives at home with mommie & daddy.” In a simultaneous post to his Facebook wall, Higgins told his 4000 friends, “FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT & TOUCH HIM.” He also claimed in another post that, “REAL TALK MY PEOPLE OUT THERE IN FLORIDA JUST TOLD ME GEORGE ZIMMERMAN IS NOT AT HIS HOUSE THEY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.”

    Higgins’s dissemination of Zimmerman’s purported Edgewater Circle address was not, however, limited to cyberspace. At a protest rally last Thursday in an L.A. park near his Crenshaw home, Higgins held a sign containing Zimmerman’s name, address, and phone number.

    Except, of course, none were accurate.

    The man who shot Martin is George Michael Zimmerman. Higgins has repeatedly identified him as “George W. Zimmerman.”

    The residence on Edgewater Circle is actually the home of David McClain, 72, and his wife Elaine, 70. The McClains, both of whom work for the Seminole County school system, have lived in the 1310-square-foot lakefront home for about a decade, records show.

    In an interview tonight, Elaine McClain told TSG that she and her husband were “afraid” due to the online linking of her address to Zimmerman. “We're keeping everything locked,” she said. McClain added that the couple was particularly unnerved by a letter mailed to them at their home. On the envelope, she said, were printed the words “Taste The Rainbow,” the slogan for Skittles. Martin was carrying a pack of Skittles and a can of ice tea when he was gunned down by Zimmerman.

    McClain said her husband returned the envelope unopened to the post office.

    The McClains (pictured below) only became aware that their address was being widely circulated online two days ago, when a TV reporter arrived at their home asking for “George.” Bewildered by their sudden--and erroneous--connection to Martin’s killer, the elderly couple’s distress can only be heightened by posts made by Twitter and Facebook users who threaten to visit their residence in search of Zimmerman. Or other posts that goad followers to vigilante action.

    Higgins has not responded to numerous TSG messages, so it is unknown where he came up with the information tying Zimmerman to the McClains's home. A check of Zimmerman’s residential history shows no connection to the Edgewater Circle property, which is about four miles from his actual home in Sanford.

    So how did Higgins screw things up?

    Besides overlooking the different middle initial, perhaps that answer is connected to an old voter record for a “William George Zimmerman” at the Edgewater Circle property. That registration, which dates back to 1995, is for a 41-year-old man. The Zimmerman who shot Martin is 28.

    Elaine McClain identified William George Zimmerman as her son, noting that he has not lived at the Edgewater Circle residence for seven years. “He is six-foot-five and thin as a rail,” McClain said of her son, who now lives elsewhere in Seminole County. McClain said she was previously married to a man named Zimmerman, but that he was not related in any fashion to the Zimmerman who shot Martin.

    When told that Twitter posts containing her address continued to pour in this evening, an exasperated Elaine McClain remarked, “Maybe we should get a lawyer and send a cease and desist letter to Spike Lee.” (6 pages)
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