Wow, we humans are pretty awful.

[Lorizael]

I may be late to the party, but I had never heard of this illness until today.

Drapetomania was a supposed mental illness described by American physician Samuel A. Cartwright in 1851 that caused black slaves to flee captivity.

...

In addition to identifying drapetomania, Cartwright prescribed a remedy. His feeling was that with "proper medical advice, strictly followed, this troublesome practice that many Negroes have of running away can be almost entirely prevented." In the case of slaves "sulky and dissatisfied without cause" — a warning sign of imminent flight — Cartwright prescribed "whipping the devil out of them" as a "preventative measure". As a remedy for this disease, doctors also made running a physical impossibility by prescribing the removal of both big toes.

[Elok]

At least eugenics was a much more rigorous scientific discipline. That's how it got the support of respectable society a century later.

EDIT: Actually, a good deal less than a century later. Terrible math/history on my part.

[Felch]

Is there a cure?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

This topic reminded me of this

Dayton, Ohio,

August 7, 1865

To My Old Master, Colonel P.H. Anderson, Big Spring, Tennessee

Sir: I got your letter, and was glad to find that you had not forgotten Jourdon, and that you wanted me to come back and live with you again, promising to do better for me than anybody else can. I have often felt uneasy about you. I thought the Yankees would have hung you long before this, for harboring Rebs they found at your house. I suppose they never heard about your going to Colonel Martin's to kill the Union soldier that was left by his company in their stable. Although you shot at me twice before I left you, I did not want to hear of your being hurt, and am glad you are still living. It would do me good to go back to the dear old home again, and see Miss Mary and Miss Martha and Allen, Esther, Green, and Lee. Give my love to them all, and tell them I hope we will meet in the better world, if not in this. I would have gone back to see you all when I was working in the Nashville Hospital, but one of the neighbors told me that Henry intended to shoot me if he ever got a chance.

I want to know particularly what the good chance is you propose to give me. I am doing tolerably well here. I get twenty-five dollars a month, with victuals and clothing; have a comfortable home for Mandy,—the folks call her Mrs. Anderson,—and the children—Milly, Jane, and Grundy—go to school and are learning well. The teacher says Grundy has a head for a preacher. They go to Sunday school, and Mandy and me attend church regularly. We are kindly treated. Sometimes we overhear others saying, "Them colored people were slaves" down in Tennessee. The children feel hurt when they hear such remarks; but I tell them it was no disgrace in Tennessee to belong to Colonel Anderson. Many darkeys would have been proud, as I used to be, to call you master. Now if you will write and say what wages you will give me, I will be better able to decide whether it would be to my advantage to move back again.

As to my freedom, which you say I can have, there is nothing to be gained on that score, as I got my free papers in 1864 from the Provost-Marshal-General of the Department of Nashville. Mandy says she would be afraid to go back without some proof that you were disposed to treat us justly and kindly; and we have concluded to test your sincerity by asking you to send us our wages for the time we served you. This will make us forget and forgive old scores, and rely on your justice and friendship in the future. I served you faithfully for thirty-two years, and Mandy twenty years. At twenty-five dollars a month for me, and two dollars a week for Mandy, our earnings would amount to eleven thousand six hundred and eighty dollars. Add to this the interest for the time our wages have been kept back, and deduct what you paid for our clothing, and three doctor's visits to me, and pulling a tooth for Mandy, and the balance will show what we are in justice entitled to. Please send the money by Adams's Express, in care of V. Winters, Esq., Dayton, Ohio. If you fail to pay us for faithful labors in the past, we can have little faith in your promises in the future. We trust the good Maker has opened your eyes to the wrongs which you and your fathers have done to me and my fathers, in making us toil for you for generations without recompense. Here I draw my wages every Saturday night; but in Tennessee there was never any pay-day for the negroes any more than for the horses and cows. Surely there will be a day of reckoning for those who defraud the laborer of his hire.

In answering this letter, please state if there would be any safety for my Milly and Jane, who are now grown up, and both good-looking girls. You know how it was with poor Matilda and Catherine. I would rather stay here and starve—and die, if it come to that—than have my girls brought to shame by the violence and wickedness of their young masters. You will also please state if there has been any schools opened for the colored children in your neighborhood. The great desire of my life now is to give my children an education, and have them form virtuous habits.

Say howdy to George Carter, and thank him for taking the pistol from you when you were shooting at me.

From your old servant,

Jourdon Anderson.

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/01...ld-master.html

[Lorizael]

I saw that letter the other day. It's made the rounds before, apparently. It's genuine, but there is some doubt as to whether or not Mr. Anderson was completely responsible for its composition.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

He supposedly dictated his meaning and had someone else write it. In any event masterfully done. (no pun intended)

[Lorizael]

Indeed. Very sharp.

[Lorizael]

At least eugenics was a much more rigorous scientific discipline. That's how it got the support of respectable society a century later.

EDIT: Actually, a good deal less than a century later. Terrible math/history on my part.

Don't forget about phrenology!

Is there a cure?

It appears there were only prophylactic treatments. Perhaps if the South hadn't been engaged in the Civil War it could have dedicated more resources to finding a cure.

[Felch]

Maybe if we had a 10K fun run?

[Lorizael]

Too many missing big toes.

[Provost Harrison]

Ah yeah, the "fun run". Just like "pleasure electrocution"...

[Titanboss]

It is really awful. Everyone has rights even if they are slaves. You should be a kind of person that even your slaves like to work for you for you kind and just behaviour. People nowadays don't have hearts.

[Al B. Sure!]

It is really awful. Everyone has rights even if they are slaves. You should be a kind of person that even your slaves like to work for you for you kind and just behaviour. People nowadays don't have hearts.

What the ****?

[-Jrabbit]

People nowadays don't have hearts.

Or slaves.

[MrFun]

I may be late to the party, but I had never heard of this illness until today.

There's another illness that some people today believe is real. It's called homosexuality, and there are groups like Exodus who want to "treat" it.

[Tupac Shakur]

Most people seem to accept that homosexuality is caused by a developmental abnormality of some kind, so it's not much of a stretch to consider it an "illness". The stupid thing is thinking it's an illness that can be treated with Bible verses and sexual repression.

[Dinner]

Tell that to Rick Santorum.

[OzzyKP]

I may be late to the party, but I had never heard of this illness until today.

That still exists. Nowadays they call it Oppositional Defiance Disorder.

[gribbler]

That still exists. Nowadays they call it Oppositional Defiance Disorder.

Seriously? You think this is like a slave that wants to escape?

Common features of Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD) include excessive, often persistent anger, frequent temper tantrums or angry outbursts, as well as disregard for authority. Children and adolescents with ODD often purposely annoy others, blame others for their own mistakes, and are easily disturbed. Parents often observe more rigid and irritable behaviors than in siblings.[2] In addition, these young people may appear resentful of others and when someone does something they don't like they prefer taking revenge more than sensitive solutions.[3]

For a child or adolescent to qualify for a diagnosis of ODD these behaviors must cause considerable distress for the family and/or interfere significantly with academic or social functioning. Interference might take the form of preventing the child or adolescent from learning at school or making friends, or placing him or her in harmful situations. These behaviors must also persist for at least six months. Effects of ODD can be greatly amplified by other disorders in comorbidity such as ADHD.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposit...iance_Disorder

[OzzyKP]

Heaven forbid a kid talks back to their parents and doesn't follow their rules, what a mentally deficient person.

[MrFun]

Most people seem to accept that homosexuality is caused by a developmental abnormality of some kind, so it's not much of a stretch to consider it an "illness". The stupid thing is thinking it's an illness that can be treated with Bible verses and sexual repression.

Where do you get that? I have the impression that the majority of people have now accepted that homosexuality is not an illness or a developmental abnormality.

[Aeson]

I think Tupac is using "ill" to describe "abnormality" bereft of either's pejorative context... like if a musician dropped some ill lyrics, that would be describing it's positive divergence from the mundane or normal.

[Tupac Shakur]

Where do you get that? I have the impression that the majority of people have now accepted that homosexuality is not an illness or a developmental abnormality.

Your impression is wrong.

[gribbler]

Heaven forbid a kid talks back to their parents and doesn't follow their rules, what a mentally deficient person.

If that's your summary of "oppositional defiance disorder" then it sounds like you're making a massive understatement.

[Al B. Sure!]

Where do you get that? I have the impression that the majority of people have now accepted that homosexuality is not an illness or a developmental abnormality.

Majority where? I'm not even sure it's the majority in the US, let alone globally.

[Zoetstofzoetje]

my father still had some ´very loyal assistants´ up until a few years after WW2. apparently they cried when my father and his family left.

such cruelty, to leave people to be independent. seeing the videos, i tend to believe that things were better when we were ruling the place. what a disorganized mess it has become.

i´m sure the elder English would say the same about India.

[Al B. Sure!]

my father still had some ´very loyal assistants´ up until a few years after WW2. apparently they cried when my father and his family left.

such cruelty, to leave people to be independent. seeing the videos, i tend to believe that things were better when we were ruling the place. what a disorganized mess it has become.

i´m sure the elder English would say the same about India.

Ruling what place?

[Zoetstofzoetje]

dutch east indies

[Aeson]

such cruelty, to leave people to be independent. seeing the videos, i tend to believe that things were better when we were ruling the place. what a disorganized mess it has become.

You're a moron. They were willing to die to get you the **** out of there. That's how "well" your 17th century mindset actually worked.

[Dinner]

Clearly slaves who do not want to be slaves are suffering from some sort of mental illness. It couldn't be from any other reason.