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    Quote Originally Posted by Zevico View Post
    It recognised the existence of slavery as a practice but it didn't explicitly legalise or abolish slavery. In fact it explicitly avoided the topic and that was quite deliberate. The American colonials were fighting a revolutionary war and chose not to address that topic at that time for that reason. That's what happened, right or wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braindead View Post
    From what I hear of Newt, I have absolutely no idea why anyone would actually vote for him.
    It has been hilarious listening to Republicans come up with excuses for how Gingrich is in the lead. To hear them say it, apparently the only people voting for Gingrich are secret Democratic operatives who have infiltrated the Republican primary process. It's absolutely hilarious to hear their excuses.
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    Then again, I heard similar stuff as to why Hillary Clinton was doing so well in the 2008 Primaries from Democrats...
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    Its not Democrats or Republicans who are horrible racists, just Americans.

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    Who are you comparing us to? Europeans? The ones that are so sweet and kind to gypsies and simply adore jews? The ones who would do anything to have more muslims move into their countries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Who are you comparing us to? Europeans? The ones that are so sweet and kind to gypsies and simply adore jews? The ones who would do anything to have more muslims move into their countries?
    How many gypsies are there in the US?
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    Does Stevie Nicks count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Who are you comparing us to? Europeans? The ones that are so sweet and kind to gypsies and simply adore jews? The ones who would do anything to have more muslims move into their countries?
    Compared to America we are indeed a shrine to racial harmony. If a politician in any of the major western European countries came out with some of the **** your reps do, they wouldn't be able to get a job mowing lawns afterwards.

    Funny that you mention Jews though, as both the UK and France have both had Jewish Prime Ministers. How many Jewish Presidents is it you've had so far?

    As for Muslims, the percentage per population is..

    Russia: 11.7%
    France 7.5%
    Germany 5%
    UK: 4.6%
    USA: 0.8%

    So who exactly is so anti muslim? You'll also find our politicians don't go around referring to muslims as terrorists like a number of yours do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kentonio View Post
    Compared to America we are indeed a shrine to racial harmony.
    Perhaps you could explain the proliferation of so called no-go areas in France as a matter of public policy then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onodera View Post
    How many gypsies are there in the US?
    ~ 1 million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoDoc View Post
    Perhaps you could explain the proliferation of so called no-go areas in France as a matter of public policy then.
    As public policy? Evidence please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kentonio View Post
    As public policy? Evidence please.
    Do you not believe they exist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoDoc View Post
    Do you not believe they exist?
    Having lived in France I'm certainly aware that there are dangerous areas, and heard talk about the police not entering certain areas. I'm interested to see however if you actually have some hard evidence to support this, and especially your remark that it is a matter of public policy.

    I'm also a little curious about why this is particularly relevant to the muslims. We have a couple of places in England that the police don't generally go, and thats nothing to do with muslims or any other specific group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kentonio View Post
    I'm also a little curious about why this is particularly relevant to the muslims. We have a couple of places in England that the police don't generally go, and thats nothing to do with muslims or any other specific group.
    Like Northern Ireland, where you send the SAS instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Like Northern Ireland, where you send the SAS instead
    I think you mean 'sent'. As in past tense. If you're going to judge a country on how they deal with things, you might want to try not being a couple of decades out of date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kentonio View Post
    Having lived in France I'm certainly aware that there are dangerous areas, and heard talk about the police not entering certain areas.
    There are hundreds of "sensitive urban zones" few of which are truly "no go" with most requiring that police operate under special procedures.
    I'm also a little curious about why this is particularly relevant to the Muslims.
    It's relevant as an example of Europe's existence as a "shrine to racial harmony" and my post didn't even mention Muslims or Islam. I was merely curious where you felt the existence of a large number of largely of officially recognized racially segregated ghettos played into the model of racial harmony and integration vs America.
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    Except they aren't 'officially recognized racially segregated ghettos', rather areas where large numbers of immigrants have settled and because of which the police try and act in a sensitive way. France have some real issues with their immigrant populations, but as I pointed out before they have a vastly larger muslim population than America, and yet there is far more anti-muslim political rhetoric in America than there is in France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
    The Constitution was written in 1787, some 4 years after the end of the Revolutionary War.
    Point taken; my memory isn't perfect. The point remains: the matter was deliberately avoided by the drafters of the Constitution. Even at that time people were discussing the possibility of a civil war or split as a result of slavery. It neither expressly legalised or abolished slavery--it left it to the States to do that. Each of the States had a different policy and laws on the subject. Slavery was not codified in the American Constitution as it was enacted. Equally the Constitution did not deny citizenship to blacks: the Supreme Court did in Dred Scott. If lawlessness judicial decision-making is an immeasurable good then what is the Dred Scott case? Or is it only lawlessness when you disagree with the political effect of the decision?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kentonio View Post
    Funny that you mention Jews though, as both the UK and France have both had Jewish Prime Ministers. How many Jewish Presidents is it you've had so far?
    Benjamin Disraeli knew what was good for him, he converted to the C of E in his youth.

    Most people don't know it, but Karl Marx was a raised as a Lutheran. No, I'm not claiming that Karl Marx was prime minister of France, but mosat people think that he was Jewish.
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    The idea that America has more racial hatred than Europe is hilarious considering that a racially motivated shooting war happened there within all of our lifetimes.
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    Tell that to your mexican friends.
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    We can, because we didn't send them to the ovens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kentonio View Post
    Compared to America we are indeed a shrine to racial harmony. If a politician in any of the major western European countries came out with some of the **** your reps do, they wouldn't be able to get a job mowing lawns afterwards.

    Funny that you mention Jews though, as both the UK and France have both had Jewish Prime Ministers. How many Jewish Presidents is it you've had so far?

    As for Muslims, the percentage per population is..

    Russia: 11.7%
    France 7.5%
    Germany 5%
    UK: 4.6%
    USA: 0.8%

    So who exactly is so anti muslim? You'll also find our politicians don't go around referring to muslims as terrorists like a number of yours do.
    Headscarf bans, bans on mosque construction, anti-immigrant rhetoric and policy that puts America to shame, all sorts of anti-Gypsy laws and demagoguery lately. Oh yea, Europe is some paradise. Shall we look at how many race riots Europe has had in the last decade compared to the US?
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    Quote Originally Posted by regexcellent View Post
    The idea that America has more racial hatred than Europe is hilarious considering that a racially motivated shooting war happened there within all of our lifetimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mad Monk View Post
    We can, because we didn't send them to the ovens.
    Nope... ze Germans were more efficient.

    However, at that time it wasn't a good time to be born black in the US neither...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    QFT
    Funny... the site Jew commenting on racism with other people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kentonio View Post
    So who exactly is so anti muslim? You'll also find our politicians don't go around referring to muslims as terrorists like a number of yours do.
    This is patently false.

    Sweden, Denmark, and the Netherlands all have anti-immigrant, (and principally anti-Muslim immigrant) parties which acquire a significant portion of the vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannubis View Post
    Funny... the site Jew commenting on racism with other people...
    I'm quoting this to preserve it for posterity.

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    I thought that was the Dutch. Isn't the Dutch language really, really close to German?
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