Rumor is HBO is planning to make a series out of Neil Gaiman's American Gods next.
HBO series >>> pretty much every movie. The Wire, Deadwood, The Sopranos, Rome...

That's about what, 85 million? Not bad. It's less than a lot of crappy summer blockbusters.
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Rumor is HBO is planning to make a series out of Neil Gaiman's American Gods next.
HBO series >>> pretty much every movie. The Wire, Deadwood, The Sopranos, Rome...
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

I'd never heard of American Gods...I just now read the plot synopsis on wiki for it and cannot fathom how that could possibly be successful as a miniseries.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

I read it last year, very good book. I think it could actually work rather well, as it is episodic in nature.
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

I'm just not sure there's a large target market for Ganesh-is-alive-and-OMG-he's-killing-everything.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

There's a large market for anything HBO wants to do. They've earned that amount of artistic leeway.
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
I just ordered HBO just so I could watch this show. The first episode was excellent![]()

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I've not read the books, and I'm no real fan of the Fantasy genre. The first episode was a bit boring, and smacked of "****! WE'VE GOT TO INTRODUCE A BUGGERLOAD OF PEOPLE!! DITCH ALL ACTION IN FAVOUR OF EXPOSITION IMMEDIATELY!"
The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

Yup, I'd agree overall. The next few episodes should be better (and according to pretty much all reviewers who've seen screenings of the first six episodes, the first is the weakest since it's so exposition-heavy). They also cut the sword fight in the prologue![]()
Still enjoyed it, but wasn't completely wowed, but the set design and basic acting are good enough that I think I'll enjoy the rest of the season.
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Well, that's one of the more bizarre reactions I've seen here recently.
The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

time to watch ep2
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"A world without guns is not a more peaceful world, but a more savage one, where brute strength allows bullies to exploit people incapable of fighting back."
Sam Harris

too short
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"A world without guns is not a more peaceful world, but a more savage one, where brute strength allows bullies to exploit people incapable of fighting back."
Sam Harris
So many fewer boobs in this episode![]()

Thank Christ for that.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

Liked the second episode a lot better than the first, felt a lot less hurried and people nailed their parts (the Hound did just fine, I was a bit worried about him...) Only problem is they cut Bran's line (the one he said when he was waking up). "His name is Summer." (about his wolf) I can see cutting the trippy dream sequences, but I wanted that line
Poor poor poor Lady, that part always gets me
I'm really looking forward to seeing Tywin Lannister (the father of the three) and the Hound's big brother...
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they sure know how to end an episode and make you come back for more.

Enjoyed the episode, definite improvement, BUT...
Without spoiling anything for me, as I may want to read the books at some point, PLEASE tell me the villains get some sort of character depth. Because, thus far, the Lannister twins and the (what I assume to be their inbred offspring) Prince and the albino son of the former King are all completely hissable, loathsome people who are just one mustache-twirl away from the very definition of cliche. (I nearly include the elder Stark daughter and that Khal fellow in this as well.)
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

Big changes for all characters...... next season.
ACK!
"Foof." - Sasquatch.
Inbred prince always remains a despicable cliche. The rest of the characters get humanized.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

I preferred the first episode. #2 seemed to drag.![]()
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

Hmmm, hard to answer this without spoiling things. But in the books Khla Drogo should already have a bit more depth, they darkened him up a lot in the TV show, in the books he never raped Dany. As far as the Lannister twins and Viserys (who isn't albino, his family just tends to have silver blonde hair naturally and I guess the TV show nixed the violet eyes for looking too silly) and Sansa (the older daughter) all of them get lots and lots of depth (one of them became a huge fan favorite by the third book for example) except for one. That one is annoying as all hell, but still only one of them...Because, thus far, the Lannister twins and the (what I assume to be their inbred offspring) Prince and the albino son of the former King are all completely hissable, loathsome people who are just one mustache-twirl away from the very definition of cliche. (I nearly include the elder Stark daughter and that Khal fellow in this as well.)
I'm a bit disappointed with who they cast as Payne (the king's executioner) in the books he's tall, gaunt and as creepy as **** and in the TV show he looks like a Scooby Doo villain
Luckily it looks like they've cast the right person for the Hound's big brother, he'll be fun to watch...
Last edited by Bosh; April 25, 2011 at 17:26.
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We've got both kinds

I'm most of the way through book 2 at this point. Martin sure loves the idea of a emotional yo-yo. Yay, good thing happened, immediately followed by a bad thing (both of which usually involve a bunch of people dying), rinse, repeat.
And, though the "evil" (or simply annoying, *coughSansacough*) characters do get some depth, I think it's fair to say that you know who the good guys are (even if they have flaws) and who the bad guys are (even if they have some redeeming qualities) pretty much from the get-go. Unless, of course, I've more to learn in the next 2 books (possible).
-Arrian
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
I don't see what the problem is with having good guys and bad guys.
My personal experience is that there are good guys and bad guys in real life.
What should be included is that even good guys have character flaws, and bad guys might have some place where they can be touched (/etc).
JM
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Show us on the dolly where the bad guy made you touch him Jon?
Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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