Hardly any new threads here anymore. Lot of activity on CivFanatics though...
Hmmm, sign of the game not doing very well or have ppl simply defected to CF?...
I used to enjoy cIV forums on this site a lot in the past - very different now
Hardly any new threads here anymore. Lot of activity on CivFanatics though...
Hmmm, sign of the game not doing very well or have ppl simply defected to CF?...
I used to enjoy cIV forums on this site a lot in the past - very different now
It's a combination of the game and the number of people. There is a number of people (a critical mass) required to keep the forum active, to start threads and respond to them. This critical mass will change depending on how good the game is; the more a game enthuses the people, the lower the critical mass will be.
If the game was Civ4 we'd have an active forum. If we'd the number of registered players that CF has, we'd have an active forum.
When I bought Civ5 I was full of optimism and very excited. Now, I think it's a decent enough game but it's not filling my spare time like it's predecessors. Partly this may be due to me getting older and life changig events like a kid and marriage that have happened. But it's more than that, the game doesn't excite me the way Civ4 did.
This length of time after civ4 was released I wanted to play it as much as possible. Not that bothered about civ5. It's decent but not as great a game as it's predecessors.
I'm hopeful that expansions will improve it.
I agree with you both. I've been coming to this forum for ten years. Its much different now.
I've also held off posting a thread called "Civilization V sucks" but that is how i feel. I've tried to get into this game, but it just doesn't grab me. I've purchased and enjoyed every single iteration of Civilization prior to this one (even Civ III), but as you say ColdPhoenix, its not as great as its predecessors.
Haven't been here for ages....
2kgames has an active forum for Civ now, also, that I'm sure is robbing people from both Poly and CFC.Originally Posted by Shogun Gunner
Anyway, plenty of "Civ5 sucks" threads over there.
Didn't a bunch of regulars go over to weplayciv? Or maybe some of them post both places. I missed what happened there though.
While there might be a physics engine that applies to the jugs, I doubt that an entire engine was written specifically for the funbags. - Cyclotron - debating the pressing issue of boobies in games.
I post both places. But it is an either or thing for most I think.
Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God. -Isaiah 41:10
The LORD your God is with you, he is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you, he will quiet you with his love, he will rejoice over you with singing. - Zephaniah 3:17
I believe one of the reasons is that Apolyton haven't really been able to follow up on Civ V, compared to Civfanatics, so everybody went there instead
This space is empty... or is it?
Similar to me...
for me its a combination of lots to do in RL,
and prefering to spend my spare time with LotRO at the moment.
At the moment there doesn´t seem to be any danger for me becoming a Civ V addict
Last edited by Proteus_MST; November 11, 2010 at 15:41.
Applications programming is a race between software engineers, who strive to produce idiot-proof programs, and the Universe which strives to produce bigger idiots. - software engineers' saying
So far, the Universe is winning.
- applications programmers' saying
After game updates, expansions or popular mods arrive, there will be a spike of interest in forums (including this one). As the game matures and more people have strategies to share, ditto.
Where's Vel?
How did other civ sites follow up on civ where we missed?I believe one of the reasons is that Apolyton haven't really been able to follow up on Civ V, compared to Civfanatics, so everybody went there instead
I think that we did a pretty good job on creating unique content for Apolyton (interviews, Q&A's, early review, etc). We also introduced new stuff, like the Arena, the University and the List. Other sites did not, or at least not as much. It's a given, none of those features are completely satisfying yet, and some aren't even finished.
But I do not think that we did not 'follow up'.
Civ5 isn't over yet, it's still supported a lot. But I think there's quite a negative vibe about civ5 right now. Worst of all maybe b/c people aren't really playing the game too much.
I'm trying to find out what civ5 is lacking that gives the urgent need for people to just play more turns.
I may write a blog article about it.
If Firaxis is able to address this issue (Which is even more important then the bugs or the crashes or the AI!! imho), then civ5 will live up, and so will the forums.
But I'd like to learn how you think that we did not follow up. Feel free to be honest, we can only learn.
Formerly known as "CyberShy"
Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori
Maybe you did follow up on Civ news, but I just couldn't find it. When you're on a random forum page, you don't see any news, like you did on the old forum. The only way to find news was by checking if anyone posted a thread on it
But to be honest I didn't follow the news that much myself either as I have been busy the last year
This space is empty... or is it?
Frankly, at the times of Civ 2 and 3, poly looked as big as cfc. It started dropping behind with Civ 4, in part because mod support and forums were just better at cfc. Thunderfall would help you host your mods, advertise them, etc. without your asking anything while 'poly didn't do squat. Then there was the weplayciv split, and the result is the community has shrunk a lot. Add to that the fact that CtP2 is getting old and it had brought a lot of players here but no longer does, and you'll get reasons why CFC gets more people.I believe one of the reasons is that Apolyton haven't really been able to follow up on Civ V, compared to Civfanatics, so everybody went there instead
The questionable quality of Civ V certainly doesn't help. Not that it's a bad game, but it doesn't seem as good as Civ 4 or 2 to many people.
Clash of Civilization team member
(a civ-like game whose goal is low micromanagement and good AI)
web site http://clash.apolyton.net/frame/index.shtml and forum here on apolyton)
I would like to request that we get a strategy forum (assuming there are enough still here to use it).
The feel of AU is wrong, for me. I do not want to write an article. I want to chat about strategy. Articles might follow from the chatter, but the way the V forums were set up seems forced. AU came about organically from the Civ3 strategy community. The community starts with a simple forum to discuss things. Of course, we can do that in this forum. It isn't crowded at this point.
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Feel free to start a thread on strategy... I'd rather read and contribute to a strategy thread then some thread whining about how bad the game sucks
Keep on Civin'
RIP Baron O
Not playing because his system cannot handle it. Plus real life...
Same here.
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Well, I'm at WPC and here at Poly and CFC too.
I come here to read almost every day.
I don't post because I have nothing to say.
Civ5 strategy? It looks it was already discovered...Let's hope future patches
change this.
If a demo game is setted here I would be happy to jump in.
I am thinking of buying CtP2 from gog.com. But I won'y play V for a long while, if ever.
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Jimmy has fancy plans, and pants to match.
I would like to see a Vel's strategy guide for CIV5. Preferrably after it evolves into a great game.
Btw it may seem like a trivial reason but i like the looks of this forum better than fanatics so i am staying
no more turns...
the increasing fragmentation of the player community across forums certainly doesn't help anyone
That problem would be easy to solve, just enable the side bar everywhere in the forum so that the news are present everywhere. Probably we should also increase the width of the forum on the expense of the background image, but I think content is more important than such a background image.
-Martin
Civ2 military advisor: "No complaints, Sir!"
We had the sidebar everywhere but people complained about it, so it was removed
It still is in the main-forum page, so assume that everybody visits it there, everybody should be able to read the latest news.
In very ancient Apolyton we had a drop-down box with the news, I always used that myself. It was lost with the transfer to vB3.
Regarding strategy, the AU needs to be improved, the 'main' forum should be able to handle normal strategy threads, then the articles should be indeed a sub forum.
But like Ming says, right now strategy posts can fit very well right here.
Formerly known as "CyberShy"
Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori
Since I have just the civ5: general forum bookmarked, I hadn't been to the main-forum page until I read this. I had checked the Spotlight occasionally, though.It still is in the main-forum page, so assume that everybody visits it there, everybody should be able to read the latest news.
Considering that the 5:general forum is the only 5 forum with any posts later than October, I suppose I'll just stick with it.
Last edited by Jaybe; November 15, 2010 at 11:54.
Where there any specific complaints, like it eats to much of the forum width, or was this moving twitter stuff annoying, or was it to big in general?We had the sidebar everywhere but people complained about it, so it was removed
I think those things can be fixed.
Don't assume anything, especially if the people are used for years not to visit the main page.
It could have been restored very easily, in vB3 with old news system. Anyway we have a new content management system. And so far what I have seen is that you would need some considerable time to add a drop down news menu to the navbar.
-Martin
Civ2 military advisor: "No complaints, Sir!"
Where there any specific complaints, like it eats to much of the forum width, or was this moving twitter stuff annoying, or was it to big in general?
I think those things can be fixed.
It was about forum-width being taken away.
The twitter feeds weren't very popular either.
It is also possible to have the sidebar in every forum, but not in the threads.
Don't assume anything, especially if the people are used for years not to visit the main page.
Well, with 'main page' I meant forum main page, not spotlight. (apolyton main page).
I myself never visited the old-Apolyton mainpage either
Right now I always go to apolyton.net b/c it gives me a good overview of what's happening.
On my cellphone I go to the forums immediately, but then I doubt that I'd like a sidebar....
It could have been restored very easily, in vB3 with old news system. Anyway we have a new content management system. And so far what I have seen is that you would need some considerable time to add a drop down news menu to the navbar.
Maybe a widget could be made.
But then again, the sidebar just in the forums may be a good option as well.
Formerly known as "CyberShy"
Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori
No matter what you decide... just make sure people have the option to NOT see it if they don't want to.
Keep on Civin'
RIP Baron O
i think you're centred too much on technology. the main problem seems to be that the membership has not rejuvenated. in other words, new players were attracted more to other forums rather than this one.
i'm good at pointing at the problem, but don't have a clear solution. part of it may be in google ranking, and support for new players. obviously, a collective will have to provide this. it's a chicken and egg discussion which grows worse as time flows by.
And why don't we just add forum width? We still have some space left on the left and the right. And in case of doubt we can also reduce the width of the navbar.
Well, what is so helpful about a moving thingy that speaks everything else than English at an English internet site. Maybe the official civ twitter is of more use. But if we remove the twitters than we could give spotlight more room and add a site map.
Don't you have means to test Apolyton, to figure this out.
So something that goes below the navbar?
Well, the idea was that you can't ignore our content so easily.No matter what you decide... just make sure people have the option to NOT see it if they don't want to.
-Martin
Civ2 military advisor: "No complaints, Sir!"
the forum is dead, there is not enough energy in the old users to make "Civ V sucks" threads anymore
Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good."
Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
George: "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
can somebody please rename you to TwoFeetUnder?
I think the problem with the forums is the game. Nobody likes it and nobody cares to work on new strategies. Without that input, what's the point?
To fix the game I really think they need to rethink the graphics and what tiles offer. It just feel like I am too far away from the map and it doesn't matter where I settle. Once I do settle it doesn't matter what tiles I upgrade (mostly). I just don't CARE. But if it did matter then I would want to be able to regen the map. And it doesn't matter who your neighbors are anymore, I just know you are going to war at some point. I remember how it would change my build if Monty or Shaka was next to me, now it doesn't, they are all nuts. I also think happiness is really too hard for many people to manage and is just one more reason to just spam more tiny cities.
So, fix the game and the forums would take care of themselves.
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