If they are smart, they take Joe Thomas. The amusing thing is that they'd get pilloried for taking Calvin Johnson, but this year it actually wouldn't be a bad idea for them to take a WR.
The suspense is killing me.
I figure Al Davis can't pass up a QB that can throw near the lenth of the field. That's his choice, not mine.
So comes Detroit, and I just have an interest in this unfortunate team.
So do what? Do you really want to trade down? They might could make a deal to a team wanting WR Johnson.
The way I see it is 1 of 2 players. Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson. I think any other choice retards Detroit improving.
Do you have any thoughts on the pick? How they pick ripples through the first round.
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If they are smart, they take Joe Thomas. The amusing thing is that they'd get pilloried for taking Calvin Johnson, but this year it actually wouldn't be a bad idea for them to take a WR.
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If they take Johnson, they lose my sympathy vote.
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I'm sure they wished they didn't take Mike Williams now... he may end up being good, but they could probably take Calvin Johnson without a fear of getting eternally laughed at if they hadn't taken Williams (especially with Johnson being considered the best player in the draft this year).
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trade the pick for a lower 1st round and a 2nd round and build an offensive line
+1Originally posted by Deity Dude
trade the pick for a lower 1st round and a 2nd round and build an offensive line
I'd suggest making a deal with Atlanta, they seem keen on Calvin Johnson and have been stockpiling draft picks just to sweeten their offer for him.
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I am in 100% agreement with my long-suffering Lions fan brethren.
But no way on God's green earth is that **** gonna happen. Matt Millen is gonna **** us up all over again. I could tolerate Thomas, and my skull wouldn't explode if we took Quinn or Peterson. But that's the best that could be said.
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If they could, they wouldOriginally posted by Deity Dude
trade the pick for a lower 1st round and a 2nd round and build an offensive line. The problem is that I think the Lions are asking more than a lower 1st rounder + 2nd rounder for the #2 pick.
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They should trade the pick for as many lower picks as possible.
Why screw up one player's life when you can screw so many more by trading?
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It's funny 'cuz it's true.
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Dallas writers are leaning now to Cowboys drafting a WR.
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Speaking from an analytical standpoint, they should trade down and get whatever they can for it.
Speaking as a fan of another team, they should keep the pick and take Joe Thomas.
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Who do Detroit fans want?
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Anyone but Millen. Can we draft a new GM?
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Calvin Johnson should go no later than #2 imo. He is a freak, and is head and shoulders above everyone on most draft boards. If they don't want him, the Lions should definitely trade down.
Kiper's now got them taking Gaines Adams.
Joe Thomas is the safe pick.
Adrian Peterson would be stupid.
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I'd love to see Kevin Jones' face if they picked AP. That'd be hilarious.
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Detroit is the pivot pick, I think. How they handle this is going to ripple through several picks, and maybe the whole first round.
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No one's going to trade for the 2nd or 3rd picks until draft day. There's still a lot of doubt as to whether Oakland will take JaMarcus or Calvin Johnson. Oakland obviously needs a QB -- badly -- but reportedly has a significantly higher grade on Johnson. Al Davis, of course, will make the call.
If Johnson is available at #2, that pick becomes VERY valuable and worth trading into for several teams. Tampa (#4) would be the leading candidate. Gruden is just drooling over this guy.
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It ain't just Gruden, let me tell you.Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Tampa (#4) would be the leading candidate. Gruden is just drooling over this guy.
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Picking a RB or WR in the top 5 doesn't make sense to me, save exceptional circumstances. If Detroit doesn't want Quinn, then they should trade down for more picks.
To be honest, I don't understand what the Raiders are doing. If for no other reason than to knock down Russell's pay day some, they should talk big about taking Quinn.
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In this draft or in any draft
Because I think San Diego's drafting of Tomlinson at #5 a few years back was a pretty good move
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Any draft. Always exceptions, of course. But mostly, I would guard against thinking that a particular WR/RB is the exception, because they probably aren't.
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I'd draft a RB in the 1st round. I hate to say it, but the Cowboys did well in free agency. Resigning their own and picking upa couple. Now they can play the draft the way it should be played, best available player.
Tampa gets THE WR. I'd about bet.
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Oakland is in contract negotiations with JaMarcus Russell and Calvin Johnson. They are both Al Davis-type talents. They will draft whichever one is most signable.
I guess it beats making a decision...
Per Mortenson and Clayton on ESPN, Detroit is in serious discussions with 5 to 8 teams to trade down. And yes, Reismark, Tampa heads the list.
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I've said it before - if Detroit can trade down, they'll save some money on their next draft bust.
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Detroit had a chance to trade down last year but ended up picking up Simms who they definitely could have taken lower in the first round (and picked up some other picks at the same time) if they weren't run by retards.
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Yeah, you can't be too attached to the pick worth chart. Variables are need and quality of players in the draft. A trade may be worthwhile even if the points don't add up.
But it's probably too much to expect Millen to understand that.
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http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...71/1049/SPORTSOL Thomas visits Lions
He wouldn't mind moving to right tackle
April 20, 2007
BY NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA
FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER
Huge news! Lions president Matt Millen has a trade in the works! The Lions are going to move up from No. 2 in the NFL draft, not down!
"I think Mr. Millen said they were going to trade with Oakland to take me at No. 1," Wisconsin offensive lineman Joe Thomas said today.
OK, just kidding. Thomas was smiling as he said that.
"I have no idea where I'm going," Thomas said.
But whether the Lions move up, move down or stay put, Thomas might be their guy.
That's why he visited Lions headquarters Thursday. Several other top prospects already have visited as the Lions do their homework in advance of the April 28-29 draft, including wide receiver Calvin Johnson, defensive end Gaines Adams and quarterbacks JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn.
Thomas said a lot of complimentary things about the Lions -- from their coaches to their facility.
But most important, he said he wouldn't mind if the Lions drafted him and played him at right tackle instead of left tackle. The Lions already have made a major commitment to a left tackle, Jeff Backus, who signed a six-year contract last year that included $15.5 million guaranteed.
"We haven't really talked about it," Thomas said. "Obviously, if I get drafted, I think then we'll talk about it. But they've asked me about playing right tackle. I have no problem with that. For me, my goal as a first-year player is not to start at any certain position, but just to be a starter on the team and help the team win."
MORE DRAFT NEWS: Top NFL prospects Calvin Johnson, Gaines Adams and Amobi Okoye reportedly admitted to marijuana use during interviews with teams in February. Pro Football Weekly, citing anonymous sources, reported the three players, all expected to go early in the April 28 draft, made the admissions at the NFL combine during routine interviews.
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A Dallas writer's latest. Seems like I'm seeing more and more predicting Oakland moving away from QB.
1. Oakland Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech
COMMENT: Say goodbye to Randy Moss
2. Detroit Gaines Adams DE Clemson
COMMENT: Best pass-rusher in the draft
3. Cleveland JaMarcus Russell QB LSU
COMMENT: Browns like his 85-yard arm
4. Tampa Bay Adrian Peterson HB Oklahoma
COMMENT: Bucs need more big plays on offense
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Always interesting to see the pre-draft panic. Usually a finely drawn combination of misinformation, wishful thinking, and Mel Kiper.
My take:
1. Oakland - JaMarcus Russell You know Big Al is sick and tired of having no QB.
2. Calvin Johnson - Logic dictates Detroit trade down with Tampa. Either way, CJ goes here
3. Cleveland - Owners want Brady Quinn; coaches want Adrian Peterson. This should be interesting.
4. Tampa Bay (or Detroit) - Gaines Adams
5. Arizona - Joe Thomas
That means either Peterson or Quinn drops to #6. Washinton should have several options at that point.
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