About Kuyt?
I need to know!!
Have you considered that there might be a good reason for that?Originally posted by Flubber
There is not a large pro-Portugal group here
About Kuyt?
I need to know!!
ProbablyOriginally posted by reds4ever
Does that mean I lose?
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No sorry but I can't see England winning the World Cup as the situation is now, they're simply not good enough even with Rooney coming back. Ashley Cole, Joe Cole, Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard and a Wayne Rooney on form. Those are the players that could possibly be part a cup winning team, the rest are not up to it and nobody wins this tournament without a complete eleven plus some class acts on the bench.
The ones with the capability for it are Italy, Brazil, Argentina, France were it not for the fact that they have to many old players, Portugal, Spain and possibly Germany because of the home advantage. I rank them at about the same level as England but with an added home advantage.
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A contender BEFORE the tourney, so what? Mexico were ranked 4 and the USA 5 so what does that tell you. Rankings and speculation based on play before the WC isnt worth the paper it's written on. Sometimes even the group play isnt an indicator of how well a team will do.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
They were a World Cup contender BEFORE the tourney. So I don't think any 'orgasmic gushing' is unwarrented.
Anyone who watched SMT's defensive play during the WC and who has the smallest spark of knowledge about what they were supposed to be doing (as opposed to what they did) would say that their back 4 lacked discipline and were totally uncoordinated. Given that situation, anyone would beat them and everyone in the group did. Gushing over a big score against a team that is defending so poorly is rubbish. Talk about B sides all you want, they didnt score against Holland's disciplined defense.
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I'll take Portugal to beat Holland.Originally posted by Locutus
Have you considered that there might be a good reason for that?
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Are you a betting man?Originally posted by SpencerH
I'll take Portugal to beat Holland.
Kuijt is a fantastic player, both very talented and a very, very, very hard worker (a rare combination). He's very creative, he can finish (was topscorer in the Eredivisie last season with 29 goals, this season he came second after Huntelaar with 22 goals -- and all that in spite of sharing his striker position at Feyenoord with another major goal getter, Kalou), he can pass, he can cross, he can dribble, he can even do his defensive duties if needed. He can play both on the right wing, in the centre of the attack and on the number 10 position. You do need to give him some freedom though, he's not at his best in a tight formation with strict orders and no space for creative actions.
He's not really playing at the top of his game this WC but keep an eye on him, he'll surely get more playing time (especially considering Van Nistelrooij's poor performance). If he really is going to England (which seems likely although I haven't heard anything about it yet) he'll instantly be the best Dutch player in the Premier League and has the potential to become for Liverpool what Van Nistelrooij was for Manchester (at least until last season).
Christ Locutus!! That good?
Kuijt (and Kalou) made a die-hard Twente supporter (a team which has Feyenoord as one of its two arch nemises) into a (temporary) Feyenoord fan, that's all you need to know
I'm surprised you hadn't heard of him yet. He really is a great player, and on top of that there've been rumours of him going to England for the last 2-3 seasons.
Of course, having potential and actually living up to it are two different things. He'll have to prove himself all over again in England, but I expect he will.
Only the stock market.Originally posted by reds4ever
Are you a betting man?
Heres my thinking
Holland and Portugal are both soccer playing nations with excellent players and good teams. Both sides are also perennial underachievers. So far Holland have looked good but I dont see any spark. Portugal are historically even worse underachievers but I see them playing with panache here. True they were not in a strong group but even so I give them the edge by virtue of what I've seen so far.
Portugal 3 - Holland 2
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I'd heard of him but the Dutch league is on at 2am over here, I'm either drunk or asleep by then. Either way it's hard to form an opinion.Originally posted by Locutus
I'm surprised you hadn't heard of him yet. He really is a great player, and on top of that there've been rumours of him going to England for the last 2-3 seasons.
The worry most Liverpool fans have is that 2 years ago we paid £14M for the leading scorer in the French league....I hope Kuyt can take the step up. Still, £10M for a big, young striker doesn't seem too bad.
Coward! £10 Paypal bet says Holland win!Originally posted by SpencerH
Only the stock market.
Cant do it. I've boycotted Paypal for years.Originally posted by reds4ever
Coward! £10 Paypal bet says Holland win!
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Sig bet then eh?Originally posted by SpencerH
Cant do it. I've boycotted Paypal for years.
"I know nothing about football (insert name) was right about the Holland-Portugal game"
Until the end of the World Cup?
Originally posted by SpencerH
A contender BEFORE the tourney, so what? Mexico were ranked 4 and the USA 5 so what does that tell you. Rankings and speculation based on play before the WC isnt worth the paper it's written on. Sometimes even the group play isnt an indicator of how well a team will do.
Anyone who watched SMT's defensive play during the WC and who has the smallest spark of knowledge about what they were supposed to be doing (as opposed to what they did) would say that their back 4 lacked discipline and were totally uncoordinated. Given that situation, anyone would beat them and everyone in the group did. Gushing over a big score against a team that is defending so poorly is rubbish. Talk about B sides all you want, they didnt score against Holland's disciplined defense.You brought up FIFA rankings as some sort of barometer? I think you'll find that only some in the US media took those rankings seriously.
And they didn't score against Holland because neither team wanted to. As stated before by someone else, the path to the Final may have been easier for the runners up.
To say the gushing over Argentina is silly because the USA was ranked 5th before the WC and because Serbia's defense was really very poor is completely missing the point. Its like saying the gushing over Brazil is silly because FIFA rankings are silly. I assure you that gushing over Argentina is entirely warrented. I mean Tevez and Messi are on the bench for that team (and not because the coach can't spot talent)!
Add to that that they are a traditional WC power and I don't see how you can complain that people are 'gushing' over Argentina. Hell, it is nothing compared to the gushing over Brazil.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Of course we've heard of him. This will be the season when Newcastle actually lands Kuyt (yes, I used the Anglicized version of the nameOriginally posted by Locutus
I'm surprised you hadn't heard of him yet. He really is a great player, and on top of that there've been rumours of him going to England for the last 2-3 seasons.)!
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
OKOriginally posted by reds4ever
Sig bet then eh?
"I know nothing about football (insert name) was right about the Holland-Portugal game"
Until the end of the World Cup?
We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.
He's going to Liverpool, thats why I asked.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Of course we've heard of him. This will be the season when Newcastle actually lands Kuyt (yes, I used the Anglicized version of the name
It will be announced next week....
Remember where you heard it first....
It's a bet then!Originally posted by SpencerH
OK
He's good but not that good imo (the dutch league isn't the best in the world, a couple of tough games but most are (or should be) walk overs for the top teams). He's technique leaves something to be desired for but seeing as he goes to the EPL, he'll do well.Originally posted by Locutus
Kuijt is a fantastic player, both very talented and a very, very, very hard worker (a rare combination). He's very creative, he can finish (was topscorer in the Eredivisie last season with 29 goals, this season he came second after Huntelaar with 22 goals -- and all that in spite of sharing his striker position at Feyenoord with another major goal getter, Kalou), he can pass, he can cross, he can dribble, he can even do his defensive duties if needed. He can play both on the right wing, in the centre of the attack and on the number 10 position. You do need to give him some freedom though, he's not at his best in a tight formation with strict orders and no space for creative actions.
He's certainly a good player to have on AND off the team.
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Like the Scottish league.....
As I said before, the Brazillians are holding back.Originally posted by atawa
Thats my point, at this moment Ronaldo due to his lack of speed or anything else for that matters is holdiong the team back. They are playing at around 50% of their ability at the moment I'd say.
It's a good ploy, to give your opponents a false sense of security.
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Newcastle have been doing it for the last 90 years......Originally posted by Urban Ranger
It's a good ploy, to give your opponents a false sense of security.
Yah, you just wait when until we start to actually play
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
The Brazilians remind me of Real somehow. Great players but not a good team and occupied with too much sponsor crap instead of playing football.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
As I said before, the Brazillians are holding back.
It's a good ploy, to give your opponents a false sense of security.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God? - Epicurus
Btw, anyone saw the piece where Guus Hiddink wasn't allowed entrance to the training ground because one of the Aussie cars wasn't a Hyundai (a sponsor).
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God? - Epicurus
Aside from that whole winning the World Cup last time, right?Originally posted by alva
The Brazilians remind me of Real somehow. Great players but not a good team and occupied with too much sponsor crap instead of playing football.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
We're going to let in 3 goals after having let in 1 goal in the last 12 competitive games? More likely that we go out on penalties, but I think we'll win.Originally posted by SpencerH
Portugal 3 - Holland 2
Crap... boss scheduled an all day CPE (Continuing Professional Education) for today (and half day tomorrow)
Though if the result is painful, maybe it is better I learn of it at the end rather than go through it... that's a silver lining, right?
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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