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    Big Grin World Football Thread XXX - Germany 2006

    Not sure why we still have this rule but anyway.

    Old thread:
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    This isn't the 30th thread (nor the porn thread for that matter)
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    I'm sure Alva will explain that it is sarcasm* which we should all be able to deduce using Sherlock Holmes style deduction and number theory
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    I'm posting to put the black dot on the envelope..........

    Instead of a "bump", I guess it's a "dot"?

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    Originally posted by Flubber
    I'm sure Alva will explain that it is sarcasm* which we should all be able to deduce using Sherlock Holmes style deduction and number theory
    Now thats sarcasm....

    Or is it something to do with number theory???

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    Well it appears that Portugal are doing their part as they lead mexico 2:1 . It must be nice for Angola to have their own fate in their hands for the moment but the Mexico game will be irrelevant if Angola doesn't pump a couple of goals by the keeper .

    Angola has a big problem in that they trailed by 3 on goal difference coming in . Add to that the fact that they currently trail on goals for by 4-0 and its starting to look promising for the mexicans . Angola needs about as many goals as it has had shots on goal ( as of minute 49")
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    Missed penalty!
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    Yeah, but the first tiebreak is goal differential, where they are only down 2 currently.

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    WOW! Sent off for diving for Mexico's Perez! (second yellow)
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    Originally posted by Flubber
    I'm sure Alva will explain that it is sarcasm* which we should all be able to deduce using Sherlock Holmes style deduction and number theory

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    Perfect cross and header for Angola 1-0.

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    As of right now Mexico is up by 1 on goal differential (Angola = 0; Mexico = +1)
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    Now Argentina netherlands

    Will these teams want to work hard to win this or not. A loss nets you Portugal and a second round date with England or Ecuador and then later Spain and Brazil likely to be on your side of the draw

    First place looks to get you Mexico with a second round matchup with Germany/Sweden and then who knows (groups E and G don't really have an overwhelming favorite-- and the teams that could be more feared are just as likely to finish secon in their group and be on the otehr side of the draw)


    If is were me, I'd rest my folks with yellows and anyone injured and field my best squad aside from that and go for the win. If you are a good team I always figure that the best approach is to play as well as you can and let the opponents sort themselves out. If that gets you germany in the quarters so be it.
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    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    As of right now Mexico is up by 1 on goal differential (Angola = 0; Mexico = +1)
    True but I believe Angola still loses on tie-break even if they tie on goal differential since I understand that goals for is the next criteria and Angola cannot catch up on that one.

    So Angola still needs two more favorable scores between the two games

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    a regular day at camp for les bleus

    une journée ordinaire avec l´équipe de France

    7h00 : Réveil des joueurs.
    7h01 : Chimbonda se demande ce qu´il fait là
    7h10 : Barthez crache sur Coupet
    7h30 : Petit déjeuner
    7h32 : Zidane jongle avec le croissant de Gallas
    7h35 : Gallas d´un geste vif et élégant assène un coup de genou dans les parties de Zidane pour reprendre le croissant
    7h36: Zidane annonce sa retraite
    7h38: Zidane revient en équipe de France
    8h00 : Les joueurs sortent de l´hôtel.
    8h05 : Un jeune supporter Lyonnais explique à Zidane que ce n´est pas lui qu´il a demandé sur la photo mais Chimbonda, parce que les vieux il s´en fout.
    8h10 : Domenech téléphone à Pires pour l´insulter
    8h15 : Barthez court piquer les gants à Coupet avant l´entraînement.
    8h20 : Henry arrive au petit déjeuner, son dernier contrat publicitaire sous le bras
    8h40 : Aulas essaye de kidnapper Abidal pour ne pas qu´il joue.
    9h10 : Coupet fait une interview simultanément pour France Football, l´équipe, Onze mondial, Télé 7 jour, VSD, Paris Match et X-mag.
    9h15 : Barthez crache sur un supporters le prenant pour un arbitre
    9h25 : Domenech demande à Zizou qu´est ce qu´il veut faire comme entraînement aujourd´hui.
    9h30 : Début de l´entraînement
    9h36 : Fin de l´entraînement des gardien, Coupet est blessé par un mystérieux piège à loup laissé là involontairement, Barthez est victime
    d´un attentat de Jean-Michel Larqué criant "gloire au nouveau roi lyonnais", "gloire au nouveau roi lyonnais"
    9h40 : L´équipe de Zidane encaisse un but par l´équipe de Henry.
    9h41 : Pierre Menez déclare, je vous l´avais dit quand Henry joue seul devant il est exceptionnel, c´est Zidane qui ne sait pas lui faire de passe
    9h43 : Zidane annonce sa retraite
    9h50 : Zidane revient en équipe de France
    9h51 : Aulas est rattrapé in extrémiste en train de kidnapper Malouda
    10h00 : Coupet sort de l´infirmerie et signe des autographes aux journalistes.
    10h10 : Sarkozy vient voir Domenech pour lui demander de retirer Thuram de
    l´effectif, un joueur pareil ne mérite pas l´équipe nationale d´un si beau
    pays.
    10h12 : Thuram asperge Sarkozy au karcher pour rigoler
    10h22 : Barthez crache sur un journaliste qui passait avec un maillot de
    Coupet.
    10h35 : Henry part en avance de l´entraînement pour aller tourner une pub
    pour Milka.
    10h35 : L´équipe de Zidane reprend le match, remonte le terrain et égalise.

    10h36 : Pierre Menez signale que depuis que Henry n´est plus là, l´équipe
    de Zidane a 100% de possession de balle
    10h46 : L´équipe de Zidane marque encore.
    10h47 : Menez signale que depuis que Henry n´est plus là rien ne va.
    10h50 : Cissé met un double avec l´(ex) équipe de Henry
    10h55 : Fin du match et de l´entraînement
    11h00 : Menez signale qu´Henry a encore une fois était décisif marquent le
    but qui a lancée son équipe vers la victoire
    11h05 : Ribery prend Domenech en otage pour lui faire signer un contrat
    certifiant que dorénavant Ribery est obligatoirement pris dans l´équipe
    11h07 : Aulas en profite pour faire signer un contrat a Domenech signalant
    qu´aucun joueur Lyonnais n´a le droit d´être pris dans l´équipe
    11h10 : Les joueurs sortent des vestiaires et regagnent l´hôtel
    11h11 : Un fou entre dans la chambre de Zidane sur un cheval en hurlant,
    "Soyons patriotes, supportons notre équipe et surtout que le football ne
    soit qu´un jeu, et les supporters ne soient qu´amour"
    11h12 : La police intervient, Francis Lalanne est le premier nom qui
    circule
    11h30 : Chimbonda téléphone a sa maman pour lui dire qu´il vient de jouer
    un match avec Zidane
    11h45 : Conférence de presse, Makelele annonce sa retraite
    11h46 : Conférence de presse, Makelele annonce qu´il revient en équipe de
    France
    12h00 : Déjeuner.
    12h01 : Aimer Jacquet vient manger à l´hôtel, c´est meilleur et pas plus
    cher qu´à Casino
    12h10 : Henry rentre de sa pub, prend un kinder en passant et va jouer à la
    playstation.
    12h20 : Trezeguet rentre de son cours de français
    12h40 : Chimbonda appelle sa maman pour lui dire qu´il mange à coté de
    Thuram
    13h00 : Domenech demande à Zidane ce qu´ils vont faire de l´après-midi
    13h12 : Coupet pose pour les photographes de Guts, People magazine, Télé 2
    semaines, allociné, le parisien, jeuxvideo mag, Femina, elle et playboy
    13h20 : Barthez crache sur l´objectif.
    13h30 : Sieste des joueurs.
    13h35 : Henry dit qu´il fera sa sieste plus tard et va tourner une pub pour
    Charal
    15h00 : Henry rentre de sa pub
    15h30 : Réveil des joueurs
    15h40 : Séance vidéo.
    15h41 : Domenech demande à Zidane ce qu´il faut regarder comme vidéo.
    16h00 : Après avoir vu son épisode préféré d´Olive et Tom, Zidane pense que
    c´est le dernier match qu´il faudrait regarder.
    16h02 : Henry sort tourner une pub pour Justin Bridou
    16h30 : Chimbonda appelle sa maman pour dire qu´il regarde un match de foot
    avec Vieira.
    16h35 : Zidane décide que plutôt que de regarder leur dernier match, il
    valait mieux étudier la finale de 98, c´est toujours mauvais de se
    rendormir après une sieste.
    16h40 : Chimbonda est tout étonné de voir qu´avant la France dépassais le
    milieu du terrain, et avec le ballon en plus
    16h55 : Premier but de Zidane, qui se blesse au crâne en imitant son geste.

    17h00 : Zidane annonce sa retraite
    17h01 : Zidane revient en équipe de France
    17h03 : Henry rentre de sa pub.
    17h15 : Fin de la séance vidéo
    17h25 : Barthez use tout son crédit en téléphonant à Football magazine, pour voter au sondage qui est le n°1
    17h30 : Henry s´achète une nouvelle Ferrari
    17h45 : Henry étrenne sa nouvelle Ferrari pour aller tourner sa pub pour Narta.
    18h00 : Domenech demande à Zidane si les joueurs veulent s´entraîner une deuxième fois
    18h01 : Les joueurs décident d´aller tous ensemble à la plage
    18h01 : Henry qui venait juste de rentrer demande a les accompagner, il a justement une pub pour Always à tourner la bas
    18h15 : Chimbonda téléphone à sa maman pour dire qu´il a vu Gallas en maillot de bain
    18h25 : Aulas profite que tous les joueurs soient partis se baigner pour ramener Abidal à Lyon

    18h30 : Henry a terminé sa pub et fait un foot avec un des fils de Zidane
    18h40 : Pierre Menez clame que Henry est le meilleur joueur du monde en le voyant faire un passement de jambe à Enzo
    18h45 : Nicolas Sarkozy effectue un contrôle des papiers de Thuram
    19h00 : Les joueurs rentrent
    19h01 : Chimbonda téléphone à sa maman pour dire qu´il est dans la nouvelle Ferrari de Henry.

    19h15 : Domenech demande à Zidane se que les joueurs vont faire le lendemain
    19h20 : Thuram annonce sa retraite
    19h21 : Zidane annonce que Thuram retourne en équipe de France
    19h30 : Henry sort tourner une pub pour Pampers
    19h50 : Fin de la journée les joueurs vont se coucher
    20h00 : Extinction des feu dans toutes les chambres
    20h01 : Chimbonda reçoit un coup de fil de sa maman pour savoir comment s´est passée sa journée
    20h30 : Henry rentre
    21h00 : Chimbonda se demande se qu´il fait là
    "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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    Iran scores

    Angola is done absent a miracle
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    Yep... Looks like Portugal 1st, Mexico 2nd. Unless a miracle.
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    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    Yep... Looks like Portugal 1st, Mexico 2nd. Unless a miracle.
    Mexico a man down and seeing the Angola score are probably relatively content to accept a one goal defeat. If they press, they need two goals to gain first while giving up ANY more goals could give Angola SOME hope.

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    This is the first of the divisions where the scoreboard watching became important (In Group B it became moot early when Trinidad fell behind)

    I'm showing the two matched in their 85th and 91st minutes so its done
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    Portugaaaallllllllll !!!!!
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    8h05 : Un jeune supporter Lyonnais explique à Zidane que ce n´est pas lui qu´il a demandé sur la photo mais Chimbonda, parce que les vieux il s´en fout.


    Apparantly, that is the mentality of the French towards Zidane, which is appauling.

    They seem to forget that the guy did win them the WC and EC!!!
    That and it may be a very long before anyone shows up half as good as he is.
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    What does that (French being disrespectful of Zidane) say?
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    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

    Though a dodgy handball called, especially since that has not been called a penalty in prior games.
    Dodgy? I dont there has been a more clear one. He stuck his hand over his head and hit the ball. Maybe he also plays volleyball.
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    Won't be any easy games in the last sixteen, but if I were Argentina and Netherlands I would try to win the group and get Mexico who look weaker than Portugal and with no real winning instinct. But it will be teams made up partly of reserves that's for certain, pretty good reserves though.
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    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    What does that (French being disrespectful of Zidane) say?
    Politely: a young fan of Olympique Lyonnais tells Zidane that he'd rather have his picture taken with Chimbonda because he doesn't care particularly for old people.

    Less politely: replace the underlined section with something you feel is appropriate.

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    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    What does that (French being disrespectful of Zidane) say?
    In short, that he is a "has been".
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    Won't be any easy games in the last sixteen,
    I agree with that -- its only good teams left but given a chance I would much rather play Ecuador or Mexico than Portugal or Germany or Brazil or Spain.

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    Interesting to glance at these results versus the FIFA rankings. Mexico at 4 and US at 5 ? Get real. They are not playing at that level.

    Germany at 19?? I know they were not in a powerhouse grouping but they are far better than 19th best !!

    Also Netherlands (3) versus Argentina (9) looks tio be one of the first top 10 matchps-- Argentina has shown they can totally destroy lesser teams but how dor they match up with the elite.


    Lastly, I look forward to Czech/Italy matchup. Italy only needs a draw while the Czechs need a win to be sure to advance. The Czechs had that shocking loss to Ghana that has essentially turned their group upside down but looked really good in demolishing then US. Which is the real Czech team?

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    Yes the FIFA ranking are a joke really, I don't know how but they really need to remodel the way the teams are valued. I mean a team like Serbia, while weak in the tournament, finished ahead of top seeds Spain in qualifying and still were in the lowest seeded group.
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