Grand Theft Auto 4 isn't even going to be sony-exclusive when it comes out next year
With video games and consoles, most developers consider the exchange rate to be $1=£1, so expect this system to have a price tag of at least £400 (assuming that they realise that £500 would be batshit insane and lower it a bit) in the UK.Originally posted by Q Cubed
Well, if you put it into pounds, the prices seem more reasonable.
As long as you don't show the pound symbol, and make people think in dollar terms.
£400 is batshit insane. So is €499. $499 as well, in fact.
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Wonder if it comes standard with the Wii?Nintendo included an image of a new Wii controller hidden within a package of hardware screenshots available for download on the Nintendo press site. The image titled "Wii_classic_0501" shows a gamepad-shaped controller with a Wii logo front and center.
The "classic" file name suggests that the controller will be used for classic Nintendo games that use a traditional gamepad interface.
The controller is reminiscent of a Super Nintendo gamepad with its oval shape, D pad, and x, y, a, and b buttons set in a familiar diamond formation. The controller also features what appear to be four buttons along the top of the controller. The classic controller face also has two analog sticks, which are necessary to maintain GameCube compatibility.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149763.html
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The black and white buttons are gone on the 360. They are shoulder buttons now.Absolutely perfect? Unlike, say, the original Xbox controller, with those two little black and white buttons way out in Timbuktu? I don't know what kind of crackhead decided to put those there. With the PS controller you just have to move your thumbs a little bit to access all the buttons and sticks except for the start and select. A good deal more comfortable in my experience as well.
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About 5 people posted in rapid succession between the minute I saw the post about the PS3 Boomerang and when I responded to it.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Didn't see what?
Heh.... people are rabid about their consoles on the Off Topic.
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Yeah, but there hadn't been any posts for about a half hour.
You have "Firaxis" under your name... we have sensorsOriginally posted by Trip
Yeah, but there hadn't been any posts for about a half hour.
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- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
UK pricing hasn't been announced yet, but I guess we can assume that it will be similar to Eurozone pricing.Originally posted by Gibsie
With video games and consoles, most developers consider the exchange rate to be $1=£1, so expect this system to have a price tag of at least £400 (assuming that they realise that £500 would be batshit insane and lower it a bit) in the UK.
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I watched the Nintendo press conference and the controller is pretty cool, actually. Its too bad the system is underpowered. And its also unfortunate Nintendo games are a lame, IMO. Lets hope they'll get solid third-party support this time around.
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May as well buy a PC now. They're more versatile.
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I think the PS3 is overpriced, and that when all the benchmarks come out that it will probably be about the same speed as the xbox360. I think that Sony is on a losing streak for the moment with Ipods, Wow, Samsung, and the xbox360 all stealing Sony's lunch money.
Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Well, the smaller Xbox controller at least.
And the joke isn't even on the controller...
I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"
Eek, double!
I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"
Attending a workshop at E3 on games development, Ubisoft Montreal creative director Clint Hocking vented about Sony's approach to the next generation, citing their mimicry of Xbox Live and Wii's controller and their approach to graphics as his main issues.
Hocking claimed that the visual push meant that developers were acting more like factory workers, with a strict regime of sorting out textures, then shaders and repeating. The HD-TV push was also pointless, he claimed, as there is still such a small adoption rate and so art resources are being wasted. After speaking of their copying of other companies' features, he said "how much more 'me too' can [Sony] be?"
In contrast to this, Hocking was very enthusiastic about Nintendo's new controller interface with Wii, saying that if it fulfils everything that Nintendo claims, it will open developers' minds and help players feel emotion much more than improved graphics would.
Seeing the Wii controllers in action really makes me want one. Some of the game screenshots look simply horrid, worse than even what the current generation is capable of,and some screenshots compare to a good GC/Xbox game. I'm confident we'll see an improvement by the time units are actually shipping, and then later on, but I really don't care about getting Xbox360-esque graphics. I think we'll see graphics that are enough of an improvement that most people won't notice when they are actually playing the game.
Nintendo has the valuable "fifth piggy" demographic to rely on for sales. You know, the one that sees the system at E3 and goes "Wii, wii, wii" all the way home...
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Too bad Nintendo didn't show a single cool game on their press conference
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You need to be banned.
I find the graphics showcased perfectly acceptable. The controller makes me all hot and bothered, however, and as long as the games use it to its potential,
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The games were okay, but the controller still hasn't sold me. Thankfully, they have classic controllers available too.
Frankly, I'm impressed withApple'sNintendo's presentation and marketing strategy here. They're going after what appears to be the more lucrative casual gamer market, as well as bringing in some innovation in how we play games (Microsoft, in this case is innovating with how we interact with each other when playing with their Live service). Not only that, but the simple fact that Nintendo is emulating all the old consoles... well, that's something even more "classic" gamers can look forward to.
If anything, while the name remains abominable (though unique--uniqueness doesn't say much, however. "Colecovision" was unique, but wasn't quite a success~), the system has great potential.
Indeed, from what I can see, the only one coming off less than stellar is Sony.
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Someone have a link of the Nintendo conference?
bleh
... No Duke Nukem Forever information this year at E3?
bleh
Try GamespotOriginally posted by cronos_qc
Someone have a link of the Nintendo conference?
[q=Q Cubed]Indeed, from what I can see, the only one coming off less than stellar is Sony.[/q]
Yep. Wii doesn't seem to be marketed to the same people X360 and PS3 are. It will probably be a good deal cheaper and not particularly marketed to the hardcore gamer. Though hopefully Nintendo doesn't mess it up and decide they are once again not going to put games on DVDs (GameCube had mini-DVDs, right?).
Sony is going up against Microsoft and the much higher price and the very similar graphics will absolutely kill the PS3 after the hardcore Sony fans all get it and the casual gamer is looking for a next gen system (which is where the consoles wars basically begin anyway... after all the brand loyalists get theirs).
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- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3videos.html?page=2&q=
Some games in these video, seems to look better than gamecube(or XBOX) games...
bleh
Microsoft Live is not just about playing with other people. Don't forget Live arcade, which is pretty cool. You not only get to download classic games, but indie games also.(Microsoft, in this case is innovating with how we interact with each other when playing with their Live service). Not only that, but the simple fact that Nintendo is emulating all the old consoles... well, that's something even more "classic" gamers can look forward to.
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Well, the thing with the XBox 360 is that Live Arcade allows for casual gamers to get into the sytem as well, but because their focus is on the classic gamers, they haven't pushed it as much as they could have.
Frankly, Sony's got a very tough uphill battle--by the time the PS3 comes out, with its somewhat less than unique name (Unlike Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony tend to put their branding efforts around the umbrella of the console--The XBox. The PlayStation--while Nintendo brands the console itself~), the XBox will likely have neared to its first hardware revision, making it cheaper.
That, and apparently the yields for the Cell chips still aren't up to snuff.
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I'm aware of that--however, Live Arcade, interesting a concept as it is, isn't quite in the same comprehensive league as Wii's Virtual Console.Microsoft Live is not just about playing with other people. Don't forget Live arcade, which is pretty cool. You not only get to download classic games, but indie games also.
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Live Arcade is just taking off. Now that Microsoft knows that Live arcade is popular, they're pushing it further. A lot of cool arcade games are coming to Live, like Defender and Time pilot. Not to mention that Microsoft made special deals with indie developers. IRC, they got developers kits dirt cheap.
The only thing they annouced for the virtual console is the Nintendo back catalogue, which I don't care much about. Not sure they'll open the virtual console to indie developers.
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Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing
Well, the back catalogue bit is somewhat undermined by the fact that, uh, most of us are already playing "the classics" for free via emulation. Illegal or not, I don't see why anyone with access to the net would pay money to play, for example, Super Metroid (sans enhancements of some kind).
Still...I might consider getting a *cough* Revolution (stupid new name) if I can whistle up the cash and they have something interesting to offer in the way of games. I'm not paying any $350 or whatever an X360 will still cost a year from now. Every penny given to Bill Gates just puts us that much closer to the day when monopolized console gaming will go the way of all Microsoft products:
"Welcome to the HALO 4 Installment Wizard! Please insert one (1) vial of blood from your firstborn. Please note that, in order to be as user-friendly as possible, Master Chief will now move, shoot, and reload automatically based on the input of one focus group from Seattle (combined with what our programmers thought most comical). For those wishing for the 'classic gameplay' experience, simply press every button on your controller RIGHT NOW while chanting hymns to the ancient Sumerian deity of your choice (for optimal results, choose Marduk; hymns to Ishtar or Tammuz may cause malfunctions)..."
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